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Who are the Catholics: The Orthodox or The Romanists, or both?
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Posted on 01/05/2010 9:46:47 PM PST by the_conscience

I just witnessed a couple of Orthodox posters get kicked off a "Catholic Caucus" thread. I thought, despite their differences, they had a mutual understanding that each sect was considered "Catholic". Are not the Orthodox considered Catholic? Why do the Romanists get to monopolize the term "Catholic"?

I consider myself to be Catholic being a part of the universal church of Christ. Why should one sect be able to use a universal concept to identify themselves in a caucus thread while other Christian denominations need to use specific qualifiers to identify themselves in a caucus thread?


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To: annalex; Dr. Eckleburg; Dr. North; the_conscience; Quix; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; wmfights; ...
Pray it for yourself and for others.

Should we expect a burning in our bosom?

421 posted on 01/07/2010 7:53:06 AM PST by the_conscience (I'm a bigot: Against Jihadists and those who support despotism of any kind.)
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To: Lorica

I’m a totally depraved sinner saved by sovereign grace trinitarian Catholic Christian.


422 posted on 01/07/2010 7:57:25 AM PST by the_conscience (I'm a bigot: Against Jihadists and those who support despotism of any kind.)
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To: the_conscience
I’m a totally depraved sinner saved by sovereign grace trinitarian Catholic Christian.

So I'll take that as a "No".

423 posted on 01/07/2010 8:28:38 AM PST by Lorica
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To: Cronos; Amityschild; Blogger; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...
. . . the only broad term a forum website can use . . .

. . . "can" . . . ????

Uhhhhh . . . no . . . I came up with some charitable, inclusive, encompasing terms I hoped would be seen as mutually acceptable.

I got back the usual heretical !!!!CONTROL!!!! PHREAQUE !!!!DEMANDING!!!! stinking piles of supreme arrogance from the usual finger frothing cliques for TPC's to utterly kotow to and comply with. NOPE. No more.

HINT:
They burned that bridge.
They burned the bridge pilings.
They burned the bridge abudments.
They burned the bridge approaches.
They gleefully burned the asphalt for miles around leading up to the bridge approaches.

I would frequently limit my preferences in posting fun and colors just in an effort to minimize jangling some of their starchy, prissy, sanctimonious, self-righteous, snooty, Nurse Rachetty sensibilities . . . when one cares, one frequently defers on sensibilities. NO MORE. Rain on em. It can take me many years, as I've demonstrated, hereon, to get burned out on even the nastiest of scoundral types. However, it does happen, on occasion.

If they want to pretend to Mother Mary that they can or want to play nice, THEY can come up with a MUTUALLY ACCEPTABLE umbrella term. That they refuse will be a screaming persistent declaration of their fierce galactic level arrogance and stubborness about their exclusive, unrighteous, UNBiblical IN-GROUP vs OUT-GROUP mentalities.

OR, Perhaps I should just let my creativity roam and see how many possible plausible unheretical terms I could come up with . . . and Trinitarian Protty Christians could just choose which seemed like the most fun for us.

424 posted on 01/07/2010 8:54:14 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: the_conscience

Well put.


425 posted on 01/07/2010 8:58:16 AM PST by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: the_conscience

Love it.

When asked if I was “Catholic,” I’ve noted that I was a member of the Univesal Church of Christ Jesus—Christ’s Body made up of all who accepted His Blood covering; who accepted Him as their salvation. . . . that I was not a member of the Roman Catholic tradition. And, that I was Pentecostal/Charismatic in theology and practice.


426 posted on 01/07/2010 9:00:03 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Dr. North; annalex
What of those who are saved by Christ, fully accept that salvation, and yet never take communion?

Are you contending that they would be less saved by virtue of their not taking communion?

If so, that is elevating communion above being saved by Christ, and saying that being saved by Christ is insufficient to in fact be saved if not supplemented by communion.

I have a little story relevant to your above concern which you may find interesting.

First my testimony: God is not a hypothesis, His Name is I AM, I’ve known Him for half a century and counting. I am a Christian, plain and simple.

Now my story: For many years I’ve attended mass with my Catholic family members whenever they invited me. Lately, I do it a lot as some family members are elderly and need physical assistance to attend.

The local priest and a person I gather is a deacon routinely offer me the bread and the cup which I routinely decline. The reason I decline is that in the very front of one of the books in their pews is an official statement by the Catholic Church instructing non-Catholics to not participate in that part of the mass.

And so out of respect and honor for the Catholic Church and my beloved relatives, I comply, even though I know this particular doctrine does not comply with Scripture (emphasis mine:)

But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of [that] bread, and drink of [that] cup. – I Cor 11:28

I do realize the doctrine is one of compassion, not wanting a participant to bring down judgment on himself by ignorance and so limits participation to those presumed to be informed Christians, i.e. members of the Catholic Church with a clear conscience:

For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many [are] weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. – I Cor 11:29-30

I am a Christian, baptized in the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit; I have a clean conscience and yet the cup and bread is withheld from me as a matter of doctrine.

Truly, I would not want to be among those in the Catholic Church who participated in the establishment of this doctrine, i.e. I don’t see how they shall justify before Christ the withholding of what they believed to be His body and His blood.

To God be the glory, not man, never man!

427 posted on 01/07/2010 9:10:38 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: the_conscience

The LDS phrase is not a bad metaphor . . . just the wrong source.


428 posted on 01/07/2010 9:12:04 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Cronos; the_conscience
this entire post is really silly,

Great example why it is a waste of time to talk with RC's. The question was asked and I then answered it. The only response left is to denigrate the post. Typical.

429 posted on 01/07/2010 9:20:16 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Quix; Joya

St.Augustine would agree with us.


430 posted on 01/07/2010 9:20:31 AM PST by the_conscience (I'm a bigot: Against Jihadists and those who support despotism of any kind.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

INDEED.


431 posted on 01/07/2010 9:24:41 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: wmfights

Some cliques have a preference, a hobby and habit of dinegrating the postER vs even the post.

I wonder if they’ll list that on their application to Heaven under “HOBBIES” . . .


432 posted on 01/07/2010 9:26:29 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: the_conscience

Hmmm.

THX.


433 posted on 01/07/2010 9:27:09 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: wmfights
Great example why it is a waste of time to talk with RC's

Fear not, wm! God always has a remnant and his elect arise from many peoples. We may not always see what God is doing initially.

434 posted on 01/07/2010 9:27:23 AM PST by the_conscience (I'm a bigot: Against Jihadists and those who support despotism of any kind.)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Dr. Eckleburg
The things you learn on these forums

Amen to that!

I especially enjoy the links that Dr.E provides, lots of good information.

435 posted on 01/07/2010 9:27:54 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Quix
Some cliques have a preference, a hobby and habit of dinegrating the postER vs even the post.

Amen brother.

436 posted on 01/07/2010 9:37:38 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: the_conscience
God always has a remnant and his elect arise from many peoples. We may not always see what God is doing initially.

Wonderful point.

I know you want to have a dialog with them and be united by our common faith in Jesus, my experience has been it's a fruitless exercise. They are the product of a hegemonic church that can't live in peace with others. It is reflected in their doctrines/dogmas and arrogance.The blessing is it also makes them terrible at apologetics.

437 posted on 01/07/2010 9:47:11 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

Thanks for your affirmation of persistent sad truth.

God be with you.


438 posted on 01/07/2010 9:52:15 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Thank you for your encouragement, dear brother in Christ!


439 posted on 01/07/2010 10:04:00 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Salvation; the_conscience

If the_conscience one day repented of any hope outside of Christ’s death for his sins, burial, and Resurrection for his justification, and trusted only Christ,

then he was baptiszed by the Holy Spirit INTO Jesus Christ (1 Cor 12:13; Eph. 4), and was made bone of Christ’s bone and flesh of Christ’s flesh.

That’s WHERE he was baptized.


440 posted on 01/07/2010 10:10:34 AM PST by John Leland 1789 (But then, I'm accused of just being a troll, so . . . .)
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