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Who are the Catholics: The Orthodox or The Romanists, or both?
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Posted on 01/05/2010 9:46:47 PM PST by the_conscience
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To: RnMomof7
That passage does not say this: “Men are either slaves to sin or slaves to righteousness...”
There’s much more to it than “Men are either slaves to sin or slaves to righteousness...”
Boiling it down to “Men are either slaves to sin or slaves to righteousness...” makes it sound as though the actions of man are not his own.
But Scripture does not deny our God-given gift of free will. Calvin does.
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posted on
01/12/2010 1:00:39 PM PST
by
Petronski
(In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
To: Natural Law
All Christians should be repelled by "superstitions and pagan rituals."
You're not?
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posted on
01/12/2010 1:01:55 PM PST
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: Religion Moderator
At least one Freeper claimed to be the Messiah.Gotta tell ya, it was a REALLY lonely Caucus thread.
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posted on
01/12/2010 1:08:30 PM PST
by
Mad Dawg
(Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Yep. Salvation is either partly due to man's own righteous choice, as in synergism, or salvation is all of God from start to finish, as in monergism. "Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure" -- Isaiah 46:10
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"That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been" -- Ecclesiastes 3:15
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"For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth" -- Romans 9:11"
I just had to put this up again. This message is laying all over the pages of the Scriptures. It is the Gospel of Christ that the prophets spoke of long ago. It is the faith of Abraham who did not receive righteousness in a transaction (as wages paid), but as a gift!!! Monergistic rescue of our lost souls...anything else is heresy.
To: Petronski
No that is not what it sounds like if you are used to reading scripture .
To: RnMomof7; Natural Law
Explain the theology of election to usBe advised: Any references to 2000 and Broward County, FL will be taken as evidence that you are not taking the question seriously enough.
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posted on
01/12/2010 1:13:33 PM PST
by
Mad Dawg
(Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
To: Mad Dawg
well if you had pinged me we could have fought it out
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posted on
01/12/2010 1:14:14 PM PST
by
1000 silverlings
(everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
To: 1000 silverlings
The nation of Israel was a way for God to implement the plan of salvation. The Israel of the OT was an earthly nation, called out from all nations for God?s purpose. He elects whom to save, potter, clay. His will, not ours. Only spiritual Israel is ever saved, as true then as it?s true now. Amen!
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posted on
01/12/2010 1:14:47 PM PST
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: RnMomof7
Does God have free will? Yes. Analogically speaking, of course, but yes.
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posted on
01/12/2010 1:15:52 PM PST
by
Mad Dawg
(Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
To: Mad Dawg
LOL... I needed that ,,thanks Dawg
To: Dr. Eckleburg
where’d those question marks come from?
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posted on
01/12/2010 1:16:59 PM PST
by
1000 silverlings
(everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
To: Mad Dawg
Does God have free will? Yes. Analogically speaking, of course, but yes.Can God sin? Can He violate His Holy Nature?
To: RnMomof7
Thank you for that terrific OT Bible lesson. That’s why I come to the FR religion forum.
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posted on
01/12/2010 1:17:58 PM PST
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: RnMomof7
Ah, but I am accustomed to reading Scripture.
I'm not accustomed to reading the Institutes or the Westminster Confession.
False traditions of men.
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posted on
01/12/2010 1:19:42 PM PST
by
Petronski
(In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
To: Quix
To: RnMomof7
Is God powerful enough to give us free will?
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posted on
01/12/2010 1:21:14 PM PST
by
Petronski
(In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
To: Petronski
No, I was talking about the Roman Catholic church, headed by Ratzinger and governed by the police state known as the Vatican.
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posted on
01/12/2010 1:21:37 PM PST
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
There is no police state known as the Vatican.
The only state known as the Vatican is not a police state.
You’ve been listening to vicious anti-Catholic lies.
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posted on
01/12/2010 1:23:19 PM PST
by
Petronski
(In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
To: Mad Dawg
To: Dr. Eckleburg
Your claim to have learned a thing that is not so may indicate a problem with the epistemology of some Catholics, or there may be another kind of problem
You suggestion that cries of anti-this or anti-that Bigot demonstrate a misunderstandinmg of how to build an argument.
I have been told by non-Catholics within recent weeks that my tag line gives offense as well as ANY use of "Protestant" or "separated brethren".
I do not take offense at questioning any of our doctrines. And after a while I stopped taking offense at many of the bizarre attacks launched at Catholicism because I come to realize that I was dealing with issues that called more for pity than for censure.
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posted on
01/12/2010 1:28:42 PM PST
by
Mad Dawg
(Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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