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Who are the Catholics: The Orthodox or The Romanists, or both?
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Posted on 01/05/2010 9:46:47 PM PST by the_conscience

I just witnessed a couple of Orthodox posters get kicked off a "Catholic Caucus" thread. I thought, despite their differences, they had a mutual understanding that each sect was considered "Catholic". Are not the Orthodox considered Catholic? Why do the Romanists get to monopolize the term "Catholic"?

I consider myself to be Catholic being a part of the universal church of Christ. Why should one sect be able to use a universal concept to identify themselves in a caucus thread while other Christian denominations need to use specific qualifiers to identify themselves in a caucus thread?


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To: Religion Moderator; theanonymouslurker; the_conscience; kosta50; wagglebee; NYer; Salvation; All
"For the purpose of moderating caucuses on the Religion Forum, members of the "Catholic Caucus" are those who accept Papal Authority."

You know, you end up in theological and/or ecclesiological issues without even knowing it. That's the problem with throwing around phrases like "...who accept Papal Authority." without really understanding what you are saying. As one of the Latin Rite posters pointed out, we Orthodox agree, for example, that no Ecumenical Council can occur without (in the absence of an Emperor) the Pope or his legate presiding. We certainly accept that the Pope has full authority over the Latin Church and any other particular church which wishes to come under his omophorion. The list of Papal Authority we "accept" goes on. BTW, so far as I know, the Oriental Orthodox feel the same way.

"The balance of this discussion is academic or theological in my view and has no bearing on moderating the Religion Forum."

Do you think that neither ecclesiology nor theology impact on who is a Catholic? Do you not understand or are you simply by fiat, and imprecisely, attempting to insulate one or more Catholics here from the opinions of the very other Catholics the Pope himself wants them to hear from?

201 posted on 01/06/2010 10:38:36 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: sitetest

The members of a non-Catholic, non-Orthodox belief are certainly welcome to use that label to caucus.


202 posted on 01/06/2010 10:39:41 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Kolokotronis
Yes, I do realize that I am excluding certain believers from a caucus to which they aver membership on theological grounds - and that I am doing it by fiat.

However, you are welcome to declare an "Orthodox/Catholic Caucus" to discuss the same issues - a wider caucus still behind closed doors, i.e. apart from non-Orthodox, non-Catholic Freepers.

204 posted on 01/06/2010 10:47:11 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: the_conscience
I’m merely reiterating what those from your sect suggest is the ecclesiology.

lol. This is brazenly false on so many levels.

205 posted on 01/06/2010 10:49:16 AM PST by theanonymouslurker
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To: Petronski

“The Catholic Church has been the Catholic Church for centuries. Your attempt to expropriate the term will necessarily fail.”

Exactly. This handful of bigots and assorted “self-identified prophets” have no authority to do jack.


207 posted on 01/06/2010 10:51:00 AM PST by OpusatFR (Tagline not State Approved. Thoughts not State Approved. Actions not State Approved)
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To: wagglebee
"'MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH' Caucus"

I Like it. But it's too long, darn it! (thread titles can only be 100 characters or less...)

You might prefer: MBTGTMOHAAOTE Caucus, though.

208 posted on 01/06/2010 10:52:20 AM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: the_conscience; Religion Moderator
Go wherever you want if you want to continue to make a fool of yourself.

Have you actually read the rules to the Religion Forum?

What part of the bold in the last post confuses you?

The OMISSION of the word PROPER. Are you aware that not all nouns are proper nouns?

209 posted on 01/06/2010 10:52:52 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: markomalley; Amityschild; Blogger; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...
GOODNESS.

Methinks some brittleness is out for some exercise.

I'D THOUGHT you understood much better than that.

BECAUSE, DEAR BRO,

I'm NOT referring to

ALL Vatican affiliates/ Papal submissives/ Roman Catholics on this forum.

I'm only referring to those cliques within the larger group who so compulsively, reflexively, so rabidly dogmatically, so rigidly narrowly, so obsessively idolatrously react like a bile spewing volcano at every hint that their worshiped INSTITUTION is less than perfect . . . or

at every hint that the Trinitarian Protty Christians hereon will

NOT KOWTOW to every !!!!CONTROL!!!! FREAQUE !!!!DEMAND!!!! FOR 100% TOTAL COMPLIANCE AND OBEISENCE TO THE VATICAN EDIFICE.

My short-hand label for all such cliques etc. is "finger frothers" . . . which they so thoroughly and persistently demonstrate themselves to be.

Are you joining their cliques?

210 posted on 01/06/2010 10:53:57 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: OpusatFR
This handful of bigots and assorted “self-identified prophets” have no authority to do jack.

Yeah, but they have the Greys on their side...

211 posted on 01/06/2010 10:54:23 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: markomalley
Why don't you just stick with traditional slurs...

Some like to use "creative" bombast and TECHNICOLOR Playskool gibberish to distract from the hate.

212 posted on 01/06/2010 10:57:04 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Quix
Methinks some brittleness is out for some exercise

I was making a joke, Quix. (I never heard the term "finger frothers" before and thought it might be an occasion for a little fun). Are you turning humorless on me now?

Lighten up, dude.

213 posted on 01/06/2010 10:57:20 AM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: the_conscience

METHINKS

Some seem to clearly consider themselves to have inherited their Inquisitor’s Mantles from their ancestors, theological or genetic.

I don’t know if there’s more blood dripping from their fingers or from their haughty eyes and clenched teeth.


214 posted on 01/06/2010 10:57:28 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Religion Moderator; crazykatz; JosephW; lambo; MoJoWork_n; newberger; The_Reader_David; jb6; ...
"and that I am doing it by fiat."

Because of the imprecision of your definition and because you won't deal with the theological or ecclesiological considerations which define "Catholic", are you saying that FR forbids, unless expressly invited, Orthodox Christians from posting on any thread designated "Catholic Caucus"?

The above ping list is the "Orthodox list" and does include a number of Latins and always has, on purpose!

215 posted on 01/06/2010 11:01:13 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: IrishCatholic

As for the other point- Thick skin is for “Romanist” or “Papist” and thin skin is for “He who must be named.”

##########

THOUSANDS of pages over years

PROVE the opposite.


216 posted on 01/06/2010 11:01:18 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: wagglebee

Proper noun:

Catholic Church:

Those who belong to the universal Christian church.


217 posted on 01/06/2010 11:01:53 AM PST by the_conscience (I'm a bigot: Against Jihadists and those who support despotism of any kind.)
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To: Petronski

“Yeah, but they have the Greys on their side... “

~Roll Eyes!~

In technocolor!


218 posted on 01/06/2010 11:02:18 AM PST by OpusatFR (Tagline not State Approved. Thoughts not State Approved. Actions not State Approved)
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To: Quix
My short-hand label for all such cliques etc. is "finger frothers"

From whose fingers do spasms and froths of font sizes and colors flow?

219 posted on 01/06/2010 11:02:34 AM PST by Titanites
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To: the_conscience

NO definition you have linked says that. Are you simply trying to make words mean what you want them to mean?


220 posted on 01/06/2010 11:03:19 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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