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Turkey Wants The Bones of St. Nicholas
What Does the Prayer Really Say ^ | 1/2/10 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 01/04/2010 9:01:41 AM PST by marshmallow

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1 posted on 01/04/2010 9:01:41 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Why is it an insult? It seems the Orthodox church at least has the right to request them. It may be turned down, but there is a case to be made there.


2 posted on 01/04/2010 9:03:49 AM PST by mnehring
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To: marshmallow

come and get ‘em.

the sad thing is the west would probably roll over and surrender if there was ever another Lepanto.


3 posted on 01/04/2010 9:04:33 AM PST by jtal
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To: mnehring

The Orthodox Church is not requesting them. The original request came from a Turkish archaeologist and was made through the Turkish government.


4 posted on 01/04/2010 9:06:22 AM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow
Why? So they can burn them?

Turkey has a Christian population but I doubt they are behind this.

5 posted on 01/04/2010 9:08:05 AM PST by raybbr (If you try to kiss your son on the head while he's running you WILL get a fat lip.)
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To: marshmallow

The bones of SANTA CLAUS????!!!!!


6 posted on 01/04/2010 9:24:35 AM PST by norge (The amiable dunce is back, wearing a skirt and high heels.)
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To: mnehring
Why is it an insult? It seems the Orthodox church at least has the right to request them. It may be turned down, but there is a case to be made there.

Is it the Orthodox church or is it the Turkish government [the cult of islam]? Turkey is something like 95% muzzie so why should they be interested in Christian relics? I don't know, just asking.

7 posted on 01/04/2010 9:26:16 AM PST by YankeeReb (Pray for 0bama Psalm 109:8 ; May his days be short. May another take his office.)
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To: marshmallow

Use this as leverage. State that the bones will only be returned when four conditions are met.

First, the Orthodox Church is given the authority and funds to rebuild the church and provide for their own security including armed guards.

Second, the Turkish government recognizes the location as a historical religious site in law and by treaty with Italy.

Third, the Orthodox Church is allowed to freely practice their faith without interference at the location and is so recognized by Turkish law.

And fourth, the Orthodox Church believes conditions one through three have been met and formally request transfer of the relics.


8 posted on 01/04/2010 9:33:36 AM PST by taxcontrol
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The bones of SANTA CLAUS????!!!!!

Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Clause. And you can visit his remains in Italy.

9 posted on 01/04/2010 9:35:04 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Cailleach

ping


10 posted on 01/04/2010 9:37:45 AM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: marshmallow
HO! HO! HO!


11 posted on 01/04/2010 9:39:18 AM PST by MuttTheHoople (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9c/TeddyVWad.jpg)
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To: YankeeReb

It’s the Turkish government. If they want to do something to ‘honor’ St. Nicholas of Myra, they could return the ancient ruined church sites to the Orthodox Church. (Including the greatest and most ancient Church of Hagia Sophia, now a museum.) See also #8.


12 posted on 01/04/2010 9:40:04 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
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13 posted on 01/04/2010 9:43:05 AM PST by paulycy (AMERICA: Less safe. Less free. More broke.)
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To: taxcontrol

Good points all. This will show how serious they are. Historically the cult hasn’t been too respectful of any other religion’s artifacts, traditions and beliefs, although they’re the first ones to scream discrimination.


14 posted on 01/04/2010 9:44:33 AM PST by YankeeReb (Pray for 0bama Psalm 109:8 ; May his days be short. May another take his office.)
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To: marshmallow

Sure!
First, give back Constantinople and the Hagia Sofia!


15 posted on 01/04/2010 9:53:37 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: taxcontrol

And that the Agia Sophia is returned to the Orthodox Church...


16 posted on 01/04/2010 9:55:04 AM PST by gmp31555
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Ohhh, that is a good one. Yes, add that as well. I travel back and forth to Istanbul on a regular basis for business.


17 posted on 01/04/2010 9:58:12 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: YankeeReb

Islam is also very much against images of people or animals, so this smells just a bit (or more than just a bit).


18 posted on 01/04/2010 10:00:14 AM PST by Pecos
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To: taxcontrol

Fifth condition: When Hagia Sophia is a Christian church again, and St. Nicholas’ relics can be enshrined there.


19 posted on 01/04/2010 10:07:54 AM PST by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: marshmallow

As soon as Turkey becomes a FREE non-secular-muzlim Nation, THEN, maybe they’ll get the bones back.

All they will do is destroy them to the hurt of every Christian, Orthodox and Catholic.


20 posted on 01/04/2010 10:12:35 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (The left have become lawless. Every strangling edict they issue carries an exemption for themselves.)
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