[Elsie]

You're completely missing my point. If one reads the "old testament" first (and believes it is Divinely inspired) without ever having heard of the "new testament," and then reads the "new testament," will that person believe that the "new testament" is what it claims to be? I say the answer is no.

Then how does one exp-lain all the Jews for Jesus and other Messianic Jewish groups?

Would they not fall into the "Believe the OT" first?

[Zionist Conspirator]

Then how does one exp-lain all the Jews for Jesus and other Messianic Jewish groups?

Would they not fall into the "Believe the OT" first?

I doubt that most of these Jews were ever raised with the Torah. Many were raised in liberal, secular families and their very first experience with G-d and the Bible was via chr*stianity. Orthodox Jews hardly ever are seduced by chr*stianity.

At any rate, the fact that Jews have apostasized does not negate the Torah. Jews have been apostasizing to false religions since before chr*stianity existed.