Posted on 12/04/2009 5:47:20 AM PST by marshmallow
Women religious contacted by the Arizona Daily Star for an article on the current apostolic visitation used the opportunity to criticize the Vatican and express their dissent from Catholic teaching.
“We are closing schools and churches and they are asking the diocese to spend money on this type of thing?” said Sister Lil Mattingly, a Maryknoll Missioner. “We try very hard to review our own lives and how Jesus is calling us to live, but I'd like to call on Rome to work on that.”
Franciscan Sister Elizabeth Ohmann added, “Are we going contrary to Rome's teachings? I say, 'Yes, it is contrary to Rome's teachings.' But it is not contrary to my own conscience.”
Bishop Gerald Kicanas of Tucson, vice president of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, saidd that the apostolic visitation will give women’s religious communities the opportunity to “identify the significant contributions they have made to the mission of the Church.”
Full Article:
Study of Religious Sisters Focuses on Religious Role of Women (Arizona Daily Star)
“apostolic activities,” = Humanism and Liberation Theology
There is a civil war brewing in the Roman Catholic Church.
The smoking gun.
Don’t let the door hit ya on your way out, Sister.
This “nun” follows...*my own conscience* rather than the Teachings of the Church. Does she realize how very ignorant she sounds?
This is the sort of “spirituality” that is pervasive in the church today. Conscience trumps doctrine or reason. Here is a nun that knows the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, but she purposely violates and rejects those teachings. I do not understand how someone can be a Catholic and reject the teachings of the Catholic Church.
aka Communist agitator.
Time to get real jobs gals.
Then they can do anything they want.
Don’t let the door hit you on your wiccan-humanist-apostate derriere on your way out, “sister”.
Probably not. Equally ignorant is the contention that the Apostolic Visitation of women's religious orders is drawing funds away from parishes and Catholic schools in the United States.
The friggin' maryknollers were preaching Marxism in the 1980s.
Sounds like sister's quoting, or at least paraphrasing, a certain someone.
Only if the Church allows for one, yes. However, if the Church does the right thing and removes these individuals from its ranks, then there won't be a problem.
You got that right, but it would hit them in their pocketbooks without the title of Catholic.......
The Church do the right thing and remove them? Like how Kerry, Pelosi, Kennedy, et al are forbidden communion? Or how Obama was not allowed to speak at Notre Dame?
Not really. The civil war was already fought. They lost.
No one told them, though. They are a bit like those Japanese soldiers living on jungle islands for 40 years, waiting to hear word from the Emperor.
Kind of busy today, so I’m re-sending my comments on a thread last week on a similar theme:
Dissolve their orders, then. They are either Catholic, and thus conform to the theology and norms of the Catholic Faith, or they are not. As it is, the ones bucking the investigation are manifestly not Catholic, on many levels. Their continued identification as Catholic religious orders amounts to a fraud perpetrated on a still largely unsuspecting (or at least “undersuspecting” - to coin a word) public.
It’s the same thing every solar circle...I mean year. Over the course of a year, practically every Catholic in America who has a name registered in almost any parish gets whole forests’ worth of solicitations from these renegade religious. They are usually couched in terms that lead one to suppose they are doing the work of the Church, and show the sisters in full habit more often than not. Once a year, they take turns in many dioceses trundling out Sister Battleaxe in her old habit (the race to just find the darned thing can last weeks before she gets shoved out there) to beg at Sunday Masses for the good, faithful sisters who are tirelessly working arm-in-arm with the pope himself in the Lord’s Vineyard. And so forth and so on...
The truth regarding what they’re up to in the meantime is usually quite different, of course. They’ve sponged umpteen million (billion?) dollars off the backs of donators while orchestrating a massively hypocritical bait-and-switch. Removing their claim to the “Catholic” angle is the only way this sort of thing will stop. Well, we could wait until the last of them dies off, which they themselves have guaranteed will happen, if the process is left to run its natural course. But that’s still years-away. The fraud should cease now. If they can’t support their elderly sisters, that’s kind of their own, self-generated problem. And remember, the 90-somethings of today were the 40- and 50-somethings leading the charge back in the 60s, when all hell broke lose in the religious orders. Suppression, and its attendant financial “problems,” will let it sink into them that they are only reaping what they sowed. Out with them all! Or let them sign a declaration repudiating all of the nonsense they’ve dished-out all these years, and we’ll talk about maintaining them in their dotage. The younger ones can go find work selling books at a New Age bookstore or something. They’re often already doing that with de facto Church sanction.
But the orders involved in the power-dive into heterodoxy must go. All of them. They have long since completely lost sight of their missions and charisms, and are utterly dead weight. Let Benedict suppress every last one of them, and order the start of each of the major ones over from scratch, with an emphasis on a full restoration of original rules, charisms, etc. And everything I’ve said goes just as well for the priests and brothers of male religious orders. The Jesuits, for example, should be (re)suppressed just on general principles. Many others are nearly as bad. Out with them all, too!
Let the good sisters, nuns, brothers and priests trapped in the rotten wood be liberated to start afresh. There may not be as many as a result, but that will be a short-lived problem. Recent experiences have shown that, if an attempt is made on the part of an order to be faithful to the teachings of the Church and the authentic mission of the order involved, vocations quickly follow. The labyrinth-chasing, Marx-proclaiming, God and Goddess-imitating losers can go follow their karma somewhere else. We can stop subsidizing them. Enough is enough!
Um...if they didn’t want to follow “The Boss’ orders (God), they should have picked a different profession.
I especially like this quote from the article:
“We are closing schools and churches and they are asking the diocese to spend money on this type of thing?” said Sister Lil Mattingly, a Maryknoll Missioner. “We try very hard to review our own lives and how Jesus is calling us to live, but I’d like to call on Rome to work on that.”
TRANSLATION: “We have been flying under the radar for so long and are upset that they are now investigating exactly what we have been up to”
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