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To: MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg

“For the record, could you remind me of what you believe that God-breathed means?”

Don’t know about Dr E, but for me, it means the scriptures say what God wants them to say - they are the written Word of God, the written expression of who He is, just as Jesus is the living Word - the expression of God in humanity.

I have no idea if that is right, it is just how I’ve always figured it.

I would say that 1 Chronicles 25 is as relevant and as important to [someone] as Matthew 5 [is to us]. My eyes glaze over at genealogies, but in some cultures, those are critical to their understanding. Tribal cultures, for example, would have a hard time understanding the flow without genealogies, while nation-states generally ignore them.


1,582 posted on 12/18/2009 5:40:31 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: Mr Rogers; kosta50
Don’t know about Dr E, but for me, it means the scriptures say what God wants them to say - they are the written Word of God, the written expression of who He is, just as Jesus is the living Word - the expression of God in humanity.

That is an interesting statement, especially in the light of friend Kosta's extensive postings showing the evolution and deliberate changing of the NT Scripture. Given that these are true, does that mean that God's word to man changes over time, as the Church changed its wording, in your opinion? I would say that 1 Chronicles 25 is as relevant and as important to [someone] as Matthew 5 [is to us].

Is it as important to Christian belief and doctrine? I do not doubt that it is Scripture; but consider this: since it is not the Penteteuch, the Jews do not believe that God dictated it. Did God want it included? I believe that He did. Did God write it? I don't believe so.

In my opinion, in the entirety of the Bible, 1 Chronicles 25 is absolutely required. But I also look at it this way: the revelation of the two testaments was progressive. The ancients were taught some things, as one might teach toddlers. Later, as these children grew in spiritual understanding, Jesus Incarnated, and the next step in revelation occurred. Christians, once the NT was starting to be accepted, started to view the NT through the Gospels (chronicles of Jesus and the prism of Christ) and the OT through the New (the prism of the revelations of Christ).

1,584 posted on 12/18/2009 6:32:23 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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