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To: IrishCatholic

Your own Catechism says you do not even need to know the words of Christ to be saved; why should you consider him “led astray”, or wait for him to “come back”? According to your own infallible teachings (the Catechism), Christ and His words are not needed for salvation. Thus neither is the Church.


36 posted on 11/21/2009 6:03:07 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Pray for President Obama: Psalms 109:8)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

You wrote:

“Your own Catechism says you do not even need to know the words of Christ to be saved;”

No, actually it doesn’t say that - if you’re refering to the invincibly ignorant.

“...why should you consider him “led astray”, or wait for him to “come back”? According to your own infallible teachings (the Catechism), Christ and His words are not needed for salvation. Thus neither is the Church.”

Okay, post the Catechism section that says that. See, I know the CCC well enough to know this is what it actually says: “those who through no fault of their own, do not know the gospel of Christ or His Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do His will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - THOSE TOO MAY ACHIEVE ETERNAL SALVATION”.

Notice the CCC says people who are INVINCIBLY IGNORANT may, THAT’S MAY, still be saved if they seek God with a sincere heart and obey His commands. The chances of that happening are slim, but we can’t rule it out because God is merciful. I guess you believe everyone who isn’t a Christian of a certain stripe will burn in hell forever (and that would include all babies who die since they can’t believe), right?


50 posted on 11/21/2009 6:30:39 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Oh really? I missed that in mine.
Would you mind giving me the section that says that? I think it is online so it should be easy.
Thanks so much.
I'll say the Rosary for you.
60 posted on 11/21/2009 6:46:46 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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