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To: vladimir998

It goes back to my other statement. Once the reformation took hold an equally corrupt anti-Catholic movement took form and it was just as bad as the one it was fighting.

This only proves that neither side had Yeshua as their guide, it was all about power and politics.

So ask yourself. Why are priests celebate? They weren’t always?
Why the huge push to make Mary the co-redemptrix? Please don’t tell me that is dead or over hyped.

What about medjordge? (sp) countless apparitions, it’s like voodoo lite.

There are many things that the Catholic church does very very well and I applaud it, there are many things they do miserably.

I just refute and refuse with every fiber in my Holy Ghost indwelt Spirit to ever acknowledge that the Catholic Church is Truth....NO SIR

Truth is Jesus the Christ.

again, God Bless.

Let’s celebrate in heaven.


32 posted on 11/21/2009 5:42:57 PM PST by panzerkamphwageneinz
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To: panzerkamphwageneinz

You wrote:

“It goes back to my other statement. Once the reformation took hold an equally corrupt anti-Catholic movement took form and it was just as bad as the one it was fighting.”

Your statement contains two errors:

1) You are making the mistake of believing the common meme - an derroneous one - that the Catholic Church was oh so corrupt. Was there corruption? Yes. Where you find people you find corruption. It was not as corrupt as anti-Catholics like to imagine.

“From a historical point of view, the idea that the medieval church was corrupt is based on a couple of methodological fallacies, such as disrespect for the peculiarities of medieval religion, arbitrary use of historical evidence, and ignorance of the situation in the medieval church. To represent “the medieval Church” as a corrupt institution lumps one thousand years of Church history together with a complete disregard for any form of historical development, and also applies the label “medieval” somewhat arbitrarily.” http://www.the-orb.net/non_spec/missteps/ch11.html

2) The Catholic Church at least preached the truth. Protestants did not. It is better to have a Church - even one rife with corruption (if that were true) - then to have one that simply teaches error as if it were truth.

“This only proves that neither side had Yeshua as their guide, it was all about power and politics.”

Nonsense. You’re making another error. You’re conflating personal transgressions of people in the Church with the Church herself.

“So ask yourself. Why are priests celebate? They weren’t always?”

Yeah, actually some of them ALWAYS were - just like Jesus and St. Paul.

“Why the huge push to make Mary the co-redemptrix?”

There is no huge push. How many articles do you ever see about it here, for instance? A few a year?

“Please don’t tell me that is dead or over hyped.”

It’s overhyped. As I said, how often do you even see anything about it here where we have articles every day?

“What about medjordge? (sp) countless apparitions, it’s like voodoo lite.”

So you say. Others say differently. I don’t worry about recent apparitions because they don’t have to be believed by anyone and have nothing to do with me.

“There are many things that the Catholic church does very very well and I applaud it, there are many things they do miserably.”

No. Individuals fail. Not the Church.

“I just refute and refuse with every fiber in my Holy Ghost indwelt Spirit to ever acknowledge that the Catholic Church is Truth....NO SIR”

I understand. Your heart is hardened. I get it. That’s not my problem. You might want to ask yourself, however, “If I am making all of these errors about history and theology, am I really in a position to know what I’m talking about?” The answer seems obvious to me.

“Truth is Jesus the Christ.”

I know.

“again, God Bless. Let’s celebrate in heaven.”

I hope to be there. I am not assuming everyone posting in this thread will be.


42 posted on 11/21/2009 6:18:12 PM PST by vladimir998
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