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Avoiding Doomsday Hype and Hysteria
American Vision ^ | Nov 17, 2009 | Gary DeMar

Posted on 11/17/2009 6:46:44 AM PST by topcat54

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1 posted on 11/17/2009 6:46:45 AM PST by topcat54
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To: ItsOurTimeNow; HarleyD; suzyjaruki; nobdysfool; jkl1122; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Dr. Eckleburg; ...
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Biblically Optimistic and Gospel-Based

"For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled." (Luke 21:22)

2 posted on 11/17/2009 6:48:10 AM PST by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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To: topcat54

—when the “rapture”occurs , I am going to be on the lookout to see if any of the driverless cars careening about collide with any bearing the “If It Ain’t the King James, It Ain’t the Bible” bumper stickers—


3 posted on 11/17/2009 6:50:55 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: topcat54

I saw the movie. It’s a bit of fun fiction made sufficiently plausible to allow the moviegoer a willing suspension of disbelief.

It’s decent entertainment. It’s Armageddon meets Independence Day meet Poseidon Adventure. See the movie. Enjoy the moment.

It is *NOT* presented as ‘fact’ a la “An Inconvenient Truth” or any Michael Moore movie.


4 posted on 11/17/2009 6:52:23 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: topcat54

Apparently, WAY too many people take fictional movies intended for entertainment WAY too seriously.


5 posted on 11/17/2009 6:56:52 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: topcat54

The way God see’s time, and the way we see time are quite different. Given the approximate age of the earth is 4.54 Billion years. Human kind, as we know humans (Homo Sapien Sapien), have been around for only 200,000 years.

The bible is over 2,000 years old and tells of times yet to come, well over 2,000 years in the future.

So, given the age of the earth, and we are told that God was around well before Earth was, humans have been around for only ~0.0000044% of the earth’s existance.

The bible was written at a point in time, well after 198,000 years of moden human first appearing on earth. If you know the exact end of time, you can say that we are 99.97% of the way there; but even then 0.03% of the human timeline is 600 years.

Based upon what the Bible says about the end of days; I’d just as soon be dead and buried at least 10 minutes beforehand. It doesn’t sound like a whole lot of fun.


6 posted on 11/17/2009 7:00:31 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: topcat54

The way God see’s time, and the way we see time are quite different. Given the approximate age of the earth is 4.54 Billion years. Human kind, as we know humans (Homo Sapien Sapien), have been around for only 200,000 years.

The bible is over 2,000 years old and tells of times yet to come, well over 2,000 years in the future.

So, given the age of the earth, and we are told that God was around well before Earth was, humans have been around for only ~0.0000044% of the earth’s existance.

The bible was written at a point in time, well after 198,000 years of moden human first appearing on earth. If you know the exact end of time, you can say that we are 99.97% of the way there; but even then 0.03% of the human timeline is 600 years.

Based upon what the Bible says about the end of days; I’d just as soon be dead and buried at least 10 minutes beforehand. It doesn’t sound like a whole lot of fun.


7 posted on 11/17/2009 7:00:36 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: rellimpank

Wouldn’t they be more likely to run head-on into cars with the “Darwinism” “Fish with Feet” emblems; all of which will presumably still have drivers aboard?

;-)


8 posted on 11/17/2009 7:00:47 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: WayneS
Apparently, WAY too many people take fictional movies intended for entertainment WAY too seriously.

That is why we have Denzel Washington-Sam Jackson-Lawrence Fishbourne-Will Smith as president
9 posted on 11/17/2009 7:01:13 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Blueflag
I have not watched the movie yet, but it has sparked interesting conversations at work.

I vision some Mayan kid with a hammer a chisel scribing out the Mayan calendar getting a few thousand years out saying to himself "heck with this I'm done, none of us will be here in 2012, let someone else finish this"

A little old man working on the calendar and dropping dead at 2012. Thus ending the calendar scribing.

10 posted on 11/17/2009 7:02:20 AM PST by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: Hodar
I’d just as soon be dead and buried at least 10 minutes beforehand. It doesn’t sound like a whole lot of fun.

Ain't been a whole lot of fun for tens of millions who have died horrible deaths since the advent of man

Everybody doesn't die of old age or in their sleep
11 posted on 11/17/2009 7:03:44 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Blueflag
It’s a bit of fun fiction made sufficiently plausible

Granted, I haven't seen the film, but my understanding (as per wikipedia) is that the Earth's core is melted by neutrinos generated by a massive solar flare.

Neutrinos. Really.

A neutrino has a 50/50 chance of penetrating a light-year of lead. It's practically a ghost particle. Of all the things in the universe, there isn't anything more harmless.

This as bad as the time someone on a Star Trek episode announced that the ship had been cleansed of baryonic matter. 10 brownie points to the first person to point out why that would be bad.

12 posted on 11/17/2009 7:04:46 AM PST by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's theology is another man's belly laugh --- Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: topcat54

You obviously don’t get the History Channel or Discovery. It’s pretty much common knowledge now that the world will end on Dec 12, 2012. Book it.


13 posted on 11/17/2009 7:05:43 AM PST by Augustinian monk
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To: WayneS
Since the entire 2011/2012 Jesus-is-gonna-return-soon scenario has been propagated by a number of "Christian" sources (see here and here), a warning about this sort of nonsense, even fictional, needs to be sounded.
14 posted on 11/17/2009 7:06:51 AM PST by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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The rise of Islam, with the subsequent promotion of World Government, World Economy, and World unity has to be a fulfillment of end time prophesy.
At no time in history has instantaneous communication between nations been enabled. And certainly the return of the Messiah, for the entire World to see, is totally within the capability of television.
And the irrelevance (little mention) of America in end time prophesy is completely believable with Obama and his marxist minions destroying our wealth and our ability to be independent of World dependence for our basic needs.


15 posted on 11/17/2009 7:12:49 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: Augustinian monk
It’s pretty much common knowledge now that the world will end on Dec 12, 2012.

Let's just hope Nov 6 2012 is not a repeat of Nov 4 2008, or the world might end a month earlier..

16 posted on 11/17/2009 7:13:44 AM PST by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: topcat54; Alamo-Girl; airborne; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; annieokie; aragorn; auggy; ...

Yes. It’s quite clear that the Original Post’s perspective is thoroughly ignorant and clueless about realities of the last year. . . . such as . . .

1. Soros, Kissenger, Brezenski et al heralding the wonderous prophetic END TIMES Biblically predicted world government and how wonderful it is that OThuga is going to carry us gloriously forward formally into it in full surrender of USA sovereignty.

2. Rather interesting that the Original Post doesn’t seem to think that’s any big deal.

3. That the Copenhagen Climate Summit was scheduled to formally effect said surrender of sovereignty to the overt global government but that has reportedly been mercifully delayed—perhaps because some folks, in contrast to the cluelessness of the original post, publicized the facts overmuch for the traitor’s comfort.

4. The screws are being tightened vis a vis Iran and Israel with Othuga leading the squeeze play . . . with Russia, NKorea, Lybia, et al . . . most quite clearly Biblically predicted . . . quite according to the Biblical script for these END TIMES.

5. The Chinese owning so much of the USA lock stock and barrel . . . with rumors about their presentments for leins against our family jewels in the world court . . . that all such economic meltdowns and destructions of the U.S. dollar in engineered interest toward establishing overtly a different GLOBAL CURRENCY, quite in keeping with Biblical prophecies for these END TIMES . . . that all such seems to be totally missed by the cluelessness of the original post. Or perhaps, the rubber dictionary involved in the original post just doesn’t consider the utter destruction of the U.S. dollar and economy in behalf of China’s gaining more global clout and control to be anything of the least concern.

6. Evidently, the original post also thinks that an engineered global flu pandemic designed to reduce the population markedly and also quite in keeping with Biblical prophecy predictions about end times plagues . . . evidently the original post’s perspective is also that such devastating and cruelly engineered plagues would be no big deal . . . a few hundred million deaths here, a few hundred million deaths there . . . no big deal.

7. Evidently, the original post’s perspective also contends that the massive amount of food producing counties declared disaster areas in the MidWest is no big deal. Maybe the authors are secretly in sympathy with the globalists plans to also use famine to reduce the global population . . . and that THAT, TOO, is no big deal.

8. Probably the VERY NEAR miss of the recent largish asteroid that we only had less than 12 hours notice of . . . would also be considered no big deal by the clueless perspective of the original post. So what if such a big rock struck in the Atlantic and wiped out all the seacoasts for many miles inland. No big deal. The original post has the accurate perspective on the present—just ask them! LOL.

9. Evidently the advancing increase in frequency and degree of drama of the UFO demonstrations and . . . the elevated whistle blower leaks about such . . . and the clear global government collusion with all such fallen angel agencies . . . toward the establishment of the Biblically predicted END TIMES satanic global government . . . is all either totally off the clueless radar of such a perspective or dismissed as no big deal. I wonder, do such folks still consider themselves even “Christian?”

10. Evidently the trumpeting of eager Islamic destroyers access in our military to the throats and hearts of our protectors . . . is also considered no big deal by such a perspective. After all, what’s security and safety? They must consider security and safety and The Constitution over-rated.

11. No doubt also considered of no consequence by such a perspective would be the recent concerns about Krakatoa blowing its stack again . . . causing a year around crop-failure winter . . . adding to an already very shrunk food producing capacity . . . several more hundreds of million killed here and there. Obviously no big deal to such a perspective. Sweet.

12. And no doubt the recent quake experts somewhat alarmed analysis of some of the major fault fields on the West Coast as being MORE cocked and ready vs less as they had thought due to some minor quake sequences . . . that too must be of absolutely no concern to such a perspective. After all, Seattle or San Francisco or LA or San Diego . . . what’s a few million deaths thrown into the heap. No big deal.


17 posted on 11/17/2009 7:16:37 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Hodar

I think science speculates on the age of Earth and the age of Man. A million years is a blink of the eye in God’s realm. But why should we even care how old the Earth is, or how long ago the dinosaurs lived and how they died? It happened.
And there will be an ending just as there was a beginning.


18 posted on 11/17/2009 7:17:35 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: uncbob
Everybody doesn't die of old age or in their sleep

Well, if it's all the same to you; I am setting a peaceful death as one of my goals. Dying as collaterial damage from a angry God isn't very high on my list of ways go do. Floods, fires, earthquakes, storms and having a star fall from the sky and wipe out 1/3 of the life on the planet just seems a bit too dramatic for my tastes. I prefer a nice nap that turns to be permanent.

But, in the end it isn't our choice, is it?

19 posted on 11/17/2009 7:18:38 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: o_zarkman44

And obviously, the health bill’s requirement that folks have the MARK OF THE BEAST CHIP ID IMPLANT TO RECEIVE CARE

is of no significant consequence. Just ask the authors of the clueless perspective in the original post.

/sar


20 posted on 11/17/2009 7:22:07 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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