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To: Achi; Diego1618; Renah; Daniel Gregg
Achi (Jay) said in post # 61;

“If the phrase "first day of the week" was not a part of your vocabulary what do you do? What if the way you render the days is by the first day of the sabbath, second day of the sabbath?”

Diego1618 said in post # 67;

“These passages are from "Young's Literal Translation" and the question is: "Why did Mr. Young translate the word SABBATWN as SABBATHS"....and more importantly....precede it by the words "First of the…"

* Robert Young shows Sabbaths (‘σαββατων’) as plural in ‘Young’s Literal Translation’ and his ‘Analytical Concordance to the Holy Bible’ for the resurrection verses where he believed and explained 2 Sabbaths (Annual Nisan 15th & weekly Saturday) coinciding on the same intermediate time between the crucifixion and resurrection of our Lord.

He believed in a Friday Nisan 14th crucifixion and a Sunday Nisan 16th (first fruits / LEV 23:11) resurrection.

His understanding of theology underlies him to say ‘First’ rationalizing Sunday as the next day after the ‘Sabbaths’ (that coincided together). The sense of understanding here is that the ‘First Day’ (Sunday) was ablative from the Sabbaths. This seems to be the common thread between the traditional Biblical interpreters of the Greek. They believe that ‘the first of Sabbaths’ and Sunday are the same identical day. Also the phrase from LEV 23:15 have a sense in the word ‘Sabbaths’ as being understood to mean ‘weeks’.

This is the real reason why Robert Young and mainstream theologians justify in their logic that the ‘first of Sabbaths’ must mean ‘the first day of the week’. This too may have been the understanding of theologians during the times at the Council of Nicaea (~325 A.D.) carried over to the Edict of Laodicea (~367 A.D.) where the instilled canon law # 29 says that Christians ‘must work on the Sabbath’. This understanding of theology allowed ‘Constantine the Great’ to force unification on Christians and Pagans alike on the same ground of ‘Sun Day’ worship. Constantine took advantage of an opportunity to solidify a solution for tolerance and harmony between the general masses of religions within his empire.

However, mainstream Christian theologians alike to Robert Young may have found difficulties in justifying logic for scriptures pertaining to the ‘Sign of Jonah’ (3 days & 3 nights) or the phrase ‘after three days’ in order to fit their ‘post crucifixion – resurrection time frame.

In their theological understanding, the ‘Sign of Jonah’ may have been written off merely as metaphorical or a shear simple shallow expression of a idiomatic phrase.

It may be only to the remaining so-called private modern day interpreters of theology where the words of Jesus ‘the only sign given’ have any deep merit to investigate literally in full analytical detail with profound implications there of. We can see that such a process runs deep through the minds of those who are convicted to lay it all out on the line. We who firmly believe reprehensively ‘in the only sign given’ as stated directly by Jesus himself. (MTH 16:4 : LUK 11:29, 30).

Best Regard – Pmary65

74 posted on 11/12/2009 9:40:23 AM PST by Pmary65 (one of the Sabbaths)
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To: Pmary65
I explain this ablative position of the traditionalists more fully in my latest article.

Debunking the Gender Argument

and proving that Μια των Σαββατων

means "first of the Sabbaths"

Daniel Gregg

76 posted on 11/12/2009 10:21:50 PM PST by Daniel Gregg (www.torahtimes.org)
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