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To: vladimir998

I was going to reply to your post 160, but I already did.

Post 78,

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2371453/posts?page=78#78

I’ll let anyone who wishes read your post 160, and my post 78, and decide for themselves why those strange Englishmen insisted on risking their lives to get copies of Wycliffe’s, and later Tyndale’s, translations.

They can decide for themselves why More spent all that time attacking Tyndale rather than getting a good translation out.

And I’ll leave you and them with the words of William Tyndale, writing 8 years before he was strangled and his body burned at the stake:

Comfort to Persecuted Bible Readers . . .

Excerpts from William Tyndale’s Introduction to
The Obedience of a Christian Man - 2nd October 1528

Let it not make thee despair, neither yet discourage thee, O reader, that it is forbidden thee in pain of life and goods, or that it is made breaking of the king’s peace, or treason unto his highness, to read the Word of thy soul’s health; … for if God be on our side, what matter maketh it who be against us, be they bishops, cardinals, popes …

Five Objections: Answered

1. They tell you that Scripture ought not to be in the mother tongue, but that is only because they fear the light, and desire to lead you blindfold and in captivity…

2. They say that Scripture needs a pure and quiet mind, and that laymen are too cumbered with worldly business to understand it. This weapon strikes themselves: for who is so tangled with worldly matters as the prelates?

3. They say that laymen would interpret it each after his own way. Why then do the curates not teach the people the right way? The Scripture would be a basis for such teaching and a test of it. At present their lives and their teaching are so contrary that the people do not believe them, even when they preach truth…

4. They say our tongue is too rude. It is not so. Greek and Hebrew go more easily into English than into Latin. Has not God made the English tongue as well as others? They suffer you to read in English of Robin Hood, Bevis of Hampton, Hercules, Troilus, and a thousand ribald or filthy tales. It is only the Scripture that is forbidden. It is therefore clearer than the sun that this forbiddal is not “for love of your souls, which they care for as the fox doth for the geese.”

5. They say we need doctors to interpret Scripture [because] it is so hard… There are errors even in Origen and Augustine; how can we test them save by the Scripture?… We do not wish to abolish teaching and to make every man his own master, but if the curates will not teach the gospel, the layman must have the Scripture, and read it for himself, taking God for his teacher.


187 posted on 10/28/2009 12:58:10 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: Mr Rogers

You said Germans didn’t have a Bible in their own language before Luther.

You were wrong.

You denied there were Catholic Bibles circulating in England in the Middle Ages.

You were wrong.


239 posted on 10/28/2009 2:57:29 PM PDT by vladimir998
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