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A Protestant Minister's Unusual Sermon on Reformation Sunday
Patrick Madrid ^ | 10/26/2009 | Patrick Madrid

Posted on 10/26/2009 4:16:56 PM PDT by Patrick Madrid

A few years ago, I slipped into the back of a large Methodist church in the area to hear a sermon delivered by the pastor which had been advertised for several days on the marquee on the lawn in front of the handsome Neo-Gothic stone edifice. I really wanted to hear what he had to say on that particular Sunday.

The occasion of this sermon was what Protestants celebrate as "Reformation Sunday," in remembrance of the sad, tragic rebellion against the Catholic Church. Of course, that's my take on what Reformation Sunday symbolizes. The pastor whose sermon I heard that day had a much different view. . . .

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To: Mr Rogers
They and I (and maybe even you) are all members of the Body of Christ, as St. Paul explained.

They are as much my brethren in Christ as are the believers I worship with at my home Parish, the believers I meet only once one Sunday when traveling, the believers on the other side of the world whom I will never meet in this life.

Do you think such triviality as time or space or even "death" disrupts the Body of Christ? I certainly do not.

Dinner? Identifiably two way conversation? Birthday presents? What a bunch of worldly hogwash!

Now: My fellow Catholics will get this; I wonder if you will. I have dinner with the entire Church, all the Choirs of Angels, and most of all the Blessed Trinity every Sunday and sometimes on weekdays.

161 posted on 10/28/2009 11:36:56 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Marysecretary

Jesus called Peter the Rock. That’s what Peter’s name means. Don’t pretend it means small stone in 1st century koine Greek.


162 posted on 10/28/2009 11:38:48 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Dutchboy88
Alright, Petronski votes “yes” that all of the junk he peddles is off point.

Well, I never said that, but in any event, since I don't peddle junk, on-point or off-point is irrelevant.

163 posted on 10/28/2009 11:39:19 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Poe White Trash

Dominion - Wycliffe believed in a form of Donatism. He believed no man, in the Church or secular society, could morally hold a position of authority or perform a sacrament if he was in mortal sin. This would effectively mean utter chaos because no one could be in charge of much of anything for very long.


164 posted on 10/28/2009 11:40:48 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Poe White Trash
You wouldn’t touch a copy of Calvin’s _Institutes_ or the Westminster Confession with a 10-foot crozier.

I also don't read Dan Brown. So what?

I prefer non-fiction, thank you very much.

165 posted on 10/28/2009 11:41:11 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Alex Murphy; markomalley

The quote you attributed to me was actually markomalley, not me.

I really don’t care how many Protestant denominations there are. As best I can tell there is a Lutheran branch, and Calvinist branch, an Anglican branch (which includes Methodism), a Baptist branch and then “everything else” (most of which started in America and has only recently spread elsewhere).


166 posted on 10/28/2009 11:45:47 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: vladimir998

Thanks. That makes sense.


167 posted on 10/28/2009 11:48:03 AM PDT by Poe White Trash (Wake up!)
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To: Marie2
The food was awesome - our annual “Reformation Buffet.”

Featuring ham, mashed potatoes and green beans; and, apple pie for dessert (ole bollen if you are Dutch)?

If not, you are a bunch of heathens.

168 posted on 10/28/2009 11:49:37 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Alex Murphy; NYer

I am curious, do you similarly chastise your fellow non-Catholics when they do things like attribute non-existent quotes to the Catholic Church or claim that the personal website of a Jewish psychic is actually a “Roman Catholic” website?


169 posted on 10/28/2009 11:52:10 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Alex Murphy
"That is why there are now 30,000+ churches that call themselves christian but disagree with each other.

I'm aware this is not your quote, but I place it here to make the point that it really does not matter how many there are. The point is that they are at least free from the oppression of being forced to believe the lies promulgated from Rome. Yes, many of groups outside of Rome are in error, somewhere. Some significant, some insignificant. Some are in harmony with each other, others are not.

But, at least it is recognized by the serious students of the Bible that churches must grapple with the Scriptures and come to conclusions based upon what the Apostles left behind. We are not enslaved to the doctrines of demons in Rome, the Vatican or the Catholic Church (whatever it calls itself now) that are clearly in conflict with the obvious teaching of the Scriptures. And, of course, God knows whom He has chosen.

170 posted on 10/28/2009 11:56:07 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: wagglebee; Alex Murphy

Only 169 posts and the thread has been up for almost 2 days? Dang. I thought it would have been over 1,000 posts already.

Somebody is slipping, big time.


171 posted on 10/28/2009 11:56:11 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Dutchboy88
We are not enslaved to the doctrines of demons in Rome, the Vatican or the Catholic Church (whatever it calls itself now) that are clearly in conflict with the obvious teaching of the Scriptures.

Yeah, because whoever disagrees with your own personal interpretation of Scripture is a demon or enslaved by a demon.

Hubris.

172 posted on 10/28/2009 11:59:31 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Dutchboy88

Jesus said in Matthew 10:34ff: “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law, a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household....and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me.”

Where did we get the idea that living according to His Word would be easy?


173 posted on 10/28/2009 12:03:56 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: markomalley
Only 169 posts and the thread has been up for almost 2 days? Dang. I thought it would have been over 1,000 posts already. Somebody is slipping, big time.

ROTFL!

174 posted on 10/28/2009 12:12:56 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him" - Job 13:15)
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To: Petronski

You now sign your posts, “Hubris”?

It gets weirder every day...


175 posted on 10/28/2009 12:14:55 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88; Petronski; markomalley
And, of course, God knows whom He has chosen.

It sounds like you are nothing more than a slave to Calvin's lottery. A person is either saved or damned and NOTHING will change that.

It makes me wonder why the lottery crowd bothers with Scripture at all since it's not going to make a bit of difference one was or the other. Could it be that you're still not quite comfortable with Calvin's lottery and want to hedge your bets?

176 posted on 10/28/2009 12:15:15 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: kittymyrib
"Where did we get the idea that living according to His Word would be easy?

Good point. And the answer is we likely haven't paid enough attention to reminders like this. It is going to be difficult, but just not hopeless as those who have no hope. We want to be found in Him, not having a righteousness of our own, but clothed in His. We will leave the self-righteousness to those in a "religion".

177 posted on 10/28/2009 12:18:01 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
You now sign your posts, “Hubris”? ...

Must be a personal signature.

178 posted on 10/28/2009 12:21:27 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him" - Job 13:15)
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To: markomalley
Only 169 posts and the thread has been up for almost 2 days? Dang. I thought it would have been over 1,000 posts already. Somebody is slipping, big time.

Quick, call me a name! Then I'll reply with another name, and someone can hit abuse on the posts! The mods will pull one of them, and that poster can question the pulling, and another can accuse the mods of bias!

We can still pull this off! 1000 posts, here we come!

179 posted on 10/28/2009 12:30:05 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him" - Job 13:15)
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To: Dutchboy88
You now sign your posts, “Hubris”?

No.

I was merely providing you some food for personal growth.

180 posted on 10/28/2009 12:31:01 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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