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Posted on 10/26/2009 4:16:56 PM PDT by Patrick Madrid
A few years ago, I slipped into the back of a large Methodist church in the area to hear a sermon delivered by the pastor which had been advertised for several days on the marquee on the lawn in front of the handsome Neo-Gothic stone edifice. I really wanted to hear what he had to say on that particular Sunday.
The occasion of this sermon was what Protestants celebrate as "Reformation Sunday," in remembrance of the sad, tragic rebellion against the Catholic Church. Of course, that's my take on what Reformation Sunday symbolizes. The pastor whose sermon I heard that day had a much different view. . . .
(Excerpt) Read more at patrickmadrid.blogspot.com ...
“Christ calls for a radical conversion, not just a “faith declaration”.
I thought I kind of said that when I wrote, “One cannot separate Jesus as Savior from Jesus as Lord. One Jesus.”
Jesus told us we must be born again. We are born again by grace through faith, not works. Once born again, one has the law written on your heart.
14For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified.
15And the Holy Spirit also bears witness to us; for after saying,
16 “This is the covenant that I will make with them
after those days, declares the Lord:
I will put my laws on their hearts,
and write them on their minds,”
17then he adds,
“I will remember their sins and their lawless deeds no more.”
18Where there is forgiveness of these, there is no longer any offering for sin.
19 Therefore, brothers, since we have confidence to enter the holy places by the blood of Jesus, 20by the new and living way that he opened for us through the curtain, that is, through his flesh, 21and since we have a great priest over the house of God, 22let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, with our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. 23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for he who promised is faithful. 24And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, 25 not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near. - Hebrews 10
Elimaniacs are commanded by their cult to commit any and all manner of abuse and attack against anyone who dares to criticize their cult...just like Scientologists.
This speaks volumes about your clouded perceptions.
If God had wanted only the Catholic church, Luther wouldn’t have had a chance. God wanted believers of all kinds and if the Catholic church hadn’t split, we’d all be marching in step with the Pope, nobody daring to do anything but. Thanks but no thanks. I’ll stick with the reformation.
“That is why there are now 30,000+ churches that call themselves christian but disagree with each other.”
Not true.
http://www.ntrmin.org/30000denominations.htm
Nor did Luther repent of what he had done. He admitted problems, and some of his ‘problems’ were founded in his desire for a state church...although that may be the Baptist interpretation coming out of me.
I came to Christ 40 years ago. Did you?
Luther had the free will to commit all of his many sins, boldly.
Thank you for bringing it up 26 posts after my public apology.
"Will have fellowship", or "Currently have fellowhip?
It's good that you agree with the Catholic Church. But then you must act on that faith. Faith alone without love or good works is faith that is dead. Faith alone is explicitly proscribed by the Apostles in Scripture.
Whoops, should have been:
So then you realize you won’t be getting away with your sins? Good.
I didn’t see your public apology. Goodness knows one was due.
***The problem of literacy was faced by all sides, as was the challenge of making copies prior to the printing press.
Had the response to Wycliffe been to distribute scripture in an approved English translation to the congregations and people, then I would concede your point. However, the response was to try to stop any unauthorized translation, and then either not make an authorized one, or not distribute it, thus preventing common men from reading scripture - if they could read, or knew someone who did.***
All 1 or 2 percent? Each church had Scripture, labouriously copied out by hand at that point. But again, I must come back to the idea that England was a minor backwater, much like, oh, say Bhutan or Togo today.
Now, with the luxury of eagle eyed hindsight, would I have handled it differently? Sure.
***FWIW - for Germany, I suspect the problem was the type of German, and Luther succeeded because he went for the vernacular instead of the higher German languages.***
Luther’s Bible went hand in hand with the Reformation, which owes its success to the German princes, out for secular power. Their success spilled out into neighbouring countries and north to Scandinavia.
More off-point tripe.
But, at least it is now well-established that the Catholics themselves don’t permit Paul his place and ignore the clear teaching of Scripture.
Go read Cronos.
TULIP? Five solas?
I could not agree more.
But, at least it is now well-established that the Catholics themselves don’t permit Paul his place and ignore the clear teaching of Scripture.
Wow, more false information about Catholics posted by Dutchboy88.
Color me shocked.
Are you claiming Cronos said “tract writer?”
It becomes clearer all the time just how covered over the eyes are of the Catholic church. But, then truth never was high on the axiology of Rome...was it?
Actually, that would make a superb preface for all of your posts. Put me down for a yes vote.
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