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A Protestant Minister's Unusual Sermon on Reformation Sunday
Patrick Madrid ^ | 10/26/2009 | Patrick Madrid

Posted on 10/26/2009 4:16:56 PM PDT by Patrick Madrid

A few years ago, I slipped into the back of a large Methodist church in the area to hear a sermon delivered by the pastor which had been advertised for several days on the marquee on the lawn in front of the handsome Neo-Gothic stone edifice. I really wanted to hear what he had to say on that particular Sunday.

The occasion of this sermon was what Protestants celebrate as "Reformation Sunday," in remembrance of the sad, tragic rebellion against the Catholic Church. Of course, that's my take on what Reformation Sunday symbolizes. The pastor whose sermon I heard that day had a much different view. . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at patrickmadrid.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; History; Mainline Protestant
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To: Cicero
your over-the-top comment

What comment would that be?

You're mistaken if you think any of my comments are predicated on some kind of retaliation for the obnoxious comments tossed at me personally. IMO they are just dander on the head of those spewing them.

Any comment I make is because I believe that statement to be true. So again, what comment of mine are you labeling "over-the-top?"

1,161 posted on 11/06/2009 9:10:25 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: wagglebee
Like this whole absurd notion that the Blessed Virgin Mary was crucified with her Son.


1,162 posted on 11/06/2009 9:13:48 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: editor-surveyor
Zoro (seed of) Astre (Astarte, Semiramis, Ishtar) = Tammuz (or Nimrod, Osirus, etc if you prefer).

Furthermore, Zoroaster is the Western spelling of the original Irani name Zarathushtra or Zarathost. The name may mean owner of the golden camel or something related (since he was from the Sogdian areas of what is now Tajikistan
1,163 posted on 11/06/2009 9:15:27 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca NOW!!!)
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To: Cronos

***Actually, they believe in Sola Interpretura — they interpret any way they want to. You can call it the Sola I doctrine too — everything is about themselves, no worries about a community of believers, they just want their own thang!***

You have coined a great description, my friend.


1,164 posted on 11/06/2009 9:18:33 AM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

If the sculpture in that photo has doctrinal authority, what it teaches is that Christ, Mary and the baby Jesus were crucified...all three of them.

Ludicrous.


1,165 posted on 11/06/2009 9:19:33 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: wagglebee; Dr. Eckleburg
They are really good at just making things up and then repeating them on a regular basis in hopes that they are eventually accepted as factual.

As Göbbels wills.

1,166 posted on 11/06/2009 9:21:04 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

***That information deserves its own thread.***

Make sure that you dress it up nicely and give it a gooooooood intro. :)

***I mean, I knew Machen was evil, but I had no idea how many distant provinces of evil constituted his dark, dank little mind.***

I’m sure that we’ve only just scratched the surface.

***The founder of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church was a racist segregationist?***

The Reformed limousine only stops for white people.


1,167 posted on 11/06/2009 9:21:29 AM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Any comment I make is because I believe that statement to be true.

Delusion is not your friend.

1,168 posted on 11/06/2009 9:22:20 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Cicero; Cronos; Judith Anne; Petronski; Titanites; MarkBsnr
What comment would that be?

Just pick one.

Any comment I make is because I believe that statement to be true.

What about the quote that you fabricated out of thin air and said could be found on "thousands" of Catholic websites? Help me understand, did you think that saying it enough times would somehow make it come true? Because the reality is that the quote didn't exist ANYWHERE and you subsequently accused me of "picking at inconsequentials" and suggested I "remove the quotation marks and the sentence still stand in a variety of wordings". In an attempt to bolster your claim you found a link to a bigot who would fit in well on some of these threads and you later tried to label as a "Catholic website" a personal homepage of a Jewish psychic who communicates with an entity she calls "Z" (though to your credit you seemed to have backed off of Crystalinks.com since it was proven to be anything but a Catholic website).

And finally, feel free to accuse me of "slander" (even though you wouldn't know the sound of my voice if I was in the room with you), because I have links to all of this.

1,169 posted on 11/06/2009 9:22:58 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Did we ever identify where this came from?


1,170 posted on 11/06/2009 9:23:41 AM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Petronski

you know what’s strange is that I’ve been to Rome thrice and I have never seen this at all in the Church of Mary Maggiore


1,171 posted on 11/06/2009 9:23:44 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca NOW!!!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Cicero; Cronos; Judith Anne; Petronski; Titanites; MarkBsnr

If you believe that she was crucified, that is your choice, it doesn’t make it true.


1,172 posted on 11/06/2009 9:24:04 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: MarkBsnr

It comes from some bigot’s website.


1,173 posted on 11/06/2009 9:24:36 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Petronski

Especially because anyone who looks at that picture can CLEARLY see that only ONE SIDE is a crucifix. Only Jesus is nailed to the Cross. The other side shows the Madonna and Child with the Cross as the Background. The reason for the Birth of Christ was the Cross. The reason for the Madonna and Child was the Cross. The Madonna and Child aren’t nailed to the Cross, there are no nails.


1,174 posted on 11/06/2009 9:25:25 AM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

***Any comment I make is because I believe that statement to be true.***

I thought that you guys were heavily into the ‘knowing’. Now you’re into the ‘believing’. Do you understand the difference between the two?


1,175 posted on 11/06/2009 9:29:01 AM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Cronos; StAthanasiustheGreat; Cicero; Judith Anne; Petronski; Titanites; MarkBsnr
you know what’s strange is that I’ve been to Rome thrice and I have never seen this at all in the Church of Mary Maggiore

That's because it's not from there. My guess is some bigot (one that is too stupid to realize that we would NEVER use a lampost crossarm as a Crucifix) made it himself.

Here are actual pictures from the Basilica:

 

 
Nave
 
Clergy in Vestments after Service
 
Nave Mosaic Panel
 
Triumphal arch mosacis
 
Apse mosaic
 
Altar and Crypt
 
Holy Crib Reliquary
 
 
 

1,176 posted on 11/06/2009 9:29:30 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

***It comes from some bigot’s website.***

The question that I would have is whether or not the website belonging to the bigot is a product of somebody more, or less, bigoted that J. Gresham Machen.


1,177 posted on 11/06/2009 9:30:39 AM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: wagglebee

***It comes from some bigot’s website.***

The question that I would have is whether or not the website belonging to the bigot is a product of somebody more, or less, bigoted than J. Gresham Machen.


1,178 posted on 11/06/2009 9:30:51 AM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

This bigot hates everyone, Catholics, Calvinists, Evangelicals, even Southern Baptists.

http://wayoflife.org/


1,179 posted on 11/06/2009 9:32:32 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Titanites

***Machen an his peeps. Was he from the hood?***

Judging from some of his associates, he probably wore a white one.


1,180 posted on 11/06/2009 9:33:06 AM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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