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Michael Moore is a Catholic – big deal. The Catholic Church is a nest of Lefties.
The Telegraph ^ | October 12th, 2009 | Ed West

Posted on 10/13/2009 8:17:37 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

As a rule I never trust anyone who uses religion to justify a political philosophy. It’s one thing to argue that faith prohibits voting for a particular law – and accept that your constituents may boot you out as a result – quite another to say one cannot be a member of a certain religion and also a conservative, liberal or socialist.

So I’m not remotely surprised to find that every political juvenile’s favourite film maker, Michael Moore, is using Christianity to attack capitalism. As The Observer reports:

Alongside the political arguments about inequality, Wall Street corruption and the failures of George W Bush, Moore argues that capitalism is also fundamentally unchristian.

In the film he interviews several Catholic priests, who explain their belief that capitalism and the free market, by emphasising greed and the self over community, go against the Bible’s basic tenets. One priest, Dick Preston, tells Moore: “Capitalism is evil, immoral and contrary to the teachings of Jesus.” Moore also describes his own Catholic upbringing and includes a skit where free-market slogans are dubbed inappropriately – and hilariously – over scenes from a movie of Jesus’s life.

I wait with bated breath about this “hilarious” scene, but from personal experience – being a papist myself – I can attest that the Catholic Church is a nest of Lefties. On economic and welfare issues, as well as various other subjects like immigration, aid and defence, the Vatican is well to the left of the main three parties. And ever since the financial crisis began, various churchmen have been quick to speak out about the failures of capitalism, even when (I suspect) many of them know less about how wealth is generated than your average hedge fund manager knows about Catholic liturgy.

Christianity is a very broad religion

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....from personal experience – being a papist myself – I can attest that the Catholic Church is a nest of Lefties. On economic and welfare issues, as well as various other subjects like immigration, aid and defence, the Vatican is well to the left of the main three parties. And ever since the financial crisis began, various churchmen have been quick to speak out about the failures of capitalism, even when (I suspect) many of them know less about how wealth is generated than your average hedge fund manager knows about Catholic liturgy.
1 posted on 10/13/2009 8:17:38 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

I’m a Jesus worshipping, pork eating, communion taking, Trininty believing Muslim.


2 posted on 10/13/2009 8:19:35 AM PDT by MNDude (The Republican Congress Economy--1995-2007)
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To: Alex Murphy

Forced taxation by government to establish a dole is not Christian. Render unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar. It still doesn’t wipe away your own need for charitable giving.

How much money does Mr. Moore donate to charity every year? 10%? 5%? 1%? Which charities? Salvation Army or the ACLU?


3 posted on 10/13/2009 8:19:58 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Celebrities and lefties garbed in the facade or religion is equal to one simply going through the motions. Nothing more than a gimmick of smoke and mirrors.


4 posted on 10/13/2009 8:21:28 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Alex Murphy

I am a born and baptized and raised Catholic and my mother is a Eucharistic Minister to the sick and gives communion at church on Sunday’s...is as Catholic as they come. She can’t wrap her head around why I absolutely can’t stand our church.

I tell her...these are the same people who give communion to people who stand for everything I am not...hypocrisy across the board from the altar to the giving baskets passed around. It has become so liberal it makes me want to puke. How can you attend mass at a Catholic church and then get into your hybrid with an Obama sticker on the back and a Choice sticker?

Makes. No. Sense.


5 posted on 10/13/2009 8:24:58 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: Alex Murphy

What about the parable in which the master gives his servants pieces of silver before going on a journey, and then when he gets back he rewards the two who turned a profit and is disappointed in the one who buried his silver?

Seems pretty capitalistic to me! And the moral of the story was that God helps those who help themselves.


6 posted on 10/13/2009 8:25:39 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: Alex Murphy

“Catholic in name only.” Just like a lot of Christians.


7 posted on 10/13/2009 8:33:38 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Zeppelin

God doesn’t want us to waste what he has given us. “To whom much is given, much is required.” And the God helping those who help themselves is not in the Bible. However, God does talk about work and that man who will not support his family is worse than an infidel. God understands the human heart and the propensity to be lazy.


8 posted on 10/13/2009 8:34:50 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Alex Murphy
capitalism and the free market, by emphasising greed and the self over community, go against the Bible’s basic tenets.

They have no idea what the free market is, which means they have no understanding what freedom is.

Greed is not the basis for capitalism; the drive to build and create is. Greed destroys capitalism like it destroys everything else. Capitalism is rooted in voluntary service to your neighbor, to your mutual benefit. He who more effectively serves his neighbor prospers.

It is a very moral concept.

9 posted on 10/13/2009 8:36:40 AM PDT by marron
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To: Alex Murphy
Often the intentional prayers are just barely concealed leftist talking points from the media. Last week we prayed for an end to manmade global warming. I stay silent on these but they make me feel separated from the congregation. We are supposed to be a church, not a loosely knit coalition of well intentioned social workers and community organizers.
10 posted on 10/13/2009 8:38:30 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Hey, O'Riley! I'd rather be a CRACKER than a CASPAR.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
"She can’t wrap her head around why I absolutely can’t stand our church."

Then get off of your arse and do something to change it.

11 posted on 10/13/2009 8:38:53 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: MNDude
“I’m a Jesus worshipping, pork eating, communion taking, Trininty believing Muslim.”

Hallelujah!

12 posted on 10/13/2009 8:41:17 AM PDT by poobear
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To: Paved Paradise

Agreed.

Also, I know the phrase itself is not in the Bible, but it sums up the concept of the Parable of the Talents, as told by Jesus.

And as you mentioned regarding God’s understanding of human nature, the master called the 3rd servant “wicked and lazy.”


13 posted on 10/13/2009 8:42:22 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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I'll see Moore's lefty priests and raise him a Pope:

If Socialism, like all errors, contains some truth (which, moreover, the Supreme Pontiffs have never denied), it is based nevertheless on a theory of human society peculiar to itself and irreconcilable with true Christianity. Religious socialism, Christian socialism, are contradictory terms; no one can be at the same time a good Catholic and a true socialist. -- Pope Pius XI, encyclical letter Quadragesimo Anno, 5/31/1931

14 posted on 10/13/2009 8:43:04 AM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: Zeppelin
And the moral of the story was that God helps those who help themselves.

No, that was Algernon Sydney in 1698, in an article titled Discourses Concerning Government.

The moral of the "talents" story is not to be a lazy bum. God owns everything, and therefore God gets to make the rules about how it will be used.

15 posted on 10/13/2009 8:44:13 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (...We never faced anything like this...we only fought humans.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Moore doesn’t speak for the Church and he doesn’t speak for me. There are too many out there like him and God will sort them out in the end.


16 posted on 10/13/2009 8:45:40 AM PDT by Citizen Soldier (Just got up from Bedroomshire)
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To: My Favorite Headache

You need to go to a parish where they have an orthodox pastor, or even better, a Traditional Latin Mass. Then you’ll be surrounded by your Catholic peers.


17 posted on 10/13/2009 8:47:35 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Alex Murphy; Salvation; narses; A.A. Cunningham; NYer
And MILLIONS of Catholics have fought & died for this country for over two hundred years so you and other anti-Catholic bigots like you could freely and often smear Catholics and the Catholic Church.

The next time you post an anti-Catholic thread, you can thank Catholics from not only America but from around the world who helped make the United States of America the great country it is.

Wipe your nose, junior...you just got bloodied.

18 posted on 10/13/2009 8:47:36 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Pyro7480
You need to go to a parish where they have an orthodox pastor, or even better, a Traditional Latin Mass. Then you’ll be surrounded by your Catholic peers.

More than likely, he's probably just too lazy to get up and go to Mass!

19 posted on 10/13/2009 8:54:15 AM PDT by notaliberal (Right-wing extremist)
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To: Alex Murphy

agreed.

see my clarification on post 13.


20 posted on 10/13/2009 8:54:24 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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