[agere_contra]

a feat that he says proves definitively that the linen some Christians revere as Jesus Christ's burial cloth is a medieval fake.

How on earth could it do that?

If I convincingly fake a dollar bill, how does it prove that the one in your pocket is also a fake?

Carbon-date some Shroud threads NOT taken from the 13th century patch and see what the age is. That's science. But pretending that a fake proves that something else is a fake is just lunacy - or rather, it's the dishonest advancement of an atheist agenda.

Also: if the Shroud image is caused by a natural process to do with, I don't know, ammonia, heat, blood, aloes, whatever then reproducing the effect hardly falsifies the Shroud. Rather, it tends to validate it.

[Mr. Silverback]

I was not aware the sample was taken from a patch...can you point me to a source on that?

[Niuhuru]

Well, I believe it is real and after two thousand years Christ is still generating controversy. Most celebs would KILL to have that ability.