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To: Elsie
Then why do you feel like you have to DO so many other things to make your salvation ASSURED?

Who said salvation could be assured? David, great guy, a "man after the Lords own heart". Messed up, first coveting, then adultery, then murder. Nathan, God's prophet of the day, damned him to hell for a very long time for it. No one can "rest assured" if they do Satan already has them and is "leading them carefully down to hell".
147 posted on 09/21/2009 7:02:50 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser

Nathan, God’s prophet of the day, damned him to hell for a very long time for it.
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When did Nathan do that to David ???

Source ???

Bible scripture only please...


157 posted on 09/21/2009 7:53:42 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: DelphiUser; Elsie
Then why do you feel like you have to DO so many other things to make your salvation ASSURED? [Elsie]

Who said salvation could be assured? [DU]

Who said? Joseph said:

But will all this purchase an assurance for me, or waft me to the regions of eternal day with my garments spotless, pure and white? Or, must I not rather obtain for myself, by my own faith and diligence in keeping the commandments of the Lord, an assurance of salvation for myself? Have I not an equal privilege with the ancient saints? (Joseph Smith 1833 letter to his uncle, Silas Smith, as cited in Teachings of the Presidents of the Church, pp. 129-130)

Much, much, much more importantly -- John the Revelator said you can be so assured...see bold-faced below in noting that eternal life is present tense (vv. 10, 12) -- note especially v. 13 about assurance:

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
9If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
10He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
11And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may KNOW THAT YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. (1 John 5:7-13)

Jesus' Way of assurance is much better than Smith's hope of assurance based primarily on his ability to keep commandments. (How reassuring is that?)

440 posted on 09/30/2009 10:52:18 PM PDT by Colofornian
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