Posted on 09/13/2009 11:48:38 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
I wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard that lame excuse come from a futurist.
Lest we forget, your Outership, it was you that kept running behind the faulty interpretation of your guru, Don Koenig.
I was more than willing to engage you when you started thinking for yourself.
We're still waiting. If you want to come over here and start badgering, just be prepared to answer things from the Bible.
If you're talking exclusively about Nicea what was resolved? Does Mary preexist Jesus? God? She was given the title "Mother of God" instead of "Mother of Christ". Which term do you think is more appropriate?
Yawn.
No, but it could very well be...
I see on the thread that some place the battle of Gog and Magog at the beginning of the Millennium...The end of the Tribulation...
Some people claim there will be two battles of Gog and Magog...One before the Millennium and one after...
And some put the battle of Gog and Magog at the end of the Millennium...In fact, Jesus does this in Rev. 20...
When one considers that Jesus has been sitting on a physical Throne in Jerusalem for 1000 years (that's a long time), the means of war likely have been pretty much eliminated off the face of the earth...Could be all the tanks, planes and guns are all gone...A Thousand years of peace...
A large army on horseback coming into Jerusalem armed with only swords, led by Satan, may appear to be a large threat to the unarmed inhabitants of Jerusalem...Entirely conceivable to me...
Here we see another RUBBERIZED SILLINESS PERSPECTIVE from the REPLACEMENTARIAN et al camp.
This irrational erroneous view postulates that
GOD ALMIGHTY
NEVER DID IN SCRIPTURE
WRITE ANY PROPHECY
THAT WAS INTENDED ONLY FOR OR PRIMARILY FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS . . . which would make little or no sense to the author or people of the time it was written.
I guess such REPLACEMENTARIANS have thrown out DANIEL from their RUBBER BIBLES.
God, however, had & has a different perspective.
GOD ALMIGHTY TOLD DANIEL TO SEAL UP THE BOOK, that it was not for that time.
Evidently the REPLACEMENTARIAN et al's RUBBER BIBLEs appear to be far shorter than the REAL, AUTHENTIC, UNRUBBERIZED Bible.
BALDERDASH.
Nonsense.
Could be, Iscool. I sure don’t know.
Figures.
If oyu could explain Daniel rather then just fluminating and bloviating, you would win a convert ... me. The fact that all you have are multi-colored empty responses gives me pause. It’s all we’ve come to expect. You and your amen corner.
If oyu could explain Daniel rather then just fluminating and bloviating, you would win a convert ... me. The fact that all you have are multi-colored empty responses gives me pause. It’s all we’ve come to expect. You and your amen corner.
Who is "we" as in "we've come to expect"? I am in nobody's amen corner. I can read, study and conjecture just like anyone else.
BTW...I just had a vision of a child, eyes closed, fingers in ears, screaming "La, la, la, la...!" at the top of his lungs trying to drown out anyone else's voice. Could that be the 'we'?
LOL.
I don’t mind the insults that much.
Sorry for the splatter.
What have you come to expect with Quixie's replies? I and some others have not come to expect much.
Actually, I can't recall any evidence that would affirm the truth of such an assertion in the SLIGHTEST.
I've posted . . . and many others have posted . . .
--BIBLICALLY CONGRUENT PROPHETIC UNDERSTANDINGS
--HISTORICALLY CONGRUENT UNDERSTANDINGS
--LOGICALLY CONGRUENT UNDERSTANDINGS
and the typical REPLACEMENTARIAN et al responses are
--more irrationality
--more RUBBER BIBLE'd hogwash
--more unhistorical hogwash
--more blasphemous heresies that ALL KNOWING, KNOWS THE END FROM THE BEGINNING, GOD ALMIGHTY'S EVERLASTING PROMISES TO THE CHILDREN OF JACOB have been flushed.
God will deal with such in His time.
I just have little motivation to tilt at utterly futile windmills, in spite of my name.
Daniel, on the whole, is not THAT mystifying when one lays his prophecies along-side the history of thie era; Ezekiel; Isaiah; Mat 24; Revelation.
There remain some mysteries on some of the details, but the broad outline of THE END TIMES is not that mystifying from Daniel or the other END TIMES prophecies.
What's utterly irrational and beyond mystifying is trying to cram so much of so many such prophecies into 70A.D. as Replacementarians et al seem so compulsively and irrationally addicted to doing.
The bit about Damascus is but one case in point. Some such folks . . . perhaps you . . . IIRC, tried some months and probably years ago, here on, as well . . . to pretend that it was
--logical
--historical and
--Biblical to
CLAIM that DAMASCUS HAD ALAREADY BEEN UTTERLY DESTROYED NEVER TO BE INHABITED AGAIN----> in 70A.D. or some such.
Yet ya'll want us to take such absurd assertions seriously???! IT BOGGLED MY MIND AT THE TIME AND STILL DOES. How could any rational Christian Conservative even BEGIN to think of such an absurdity--much less brazenly insist it was a correct notion???
All the evidence is that Damascus is all set and cocked to be utterly obliterated just as Scripture predicts--forever more NEVER again to be inhabited.
GOD'S WORD WILL BE OVERWHELMINGLY LITERALLY FULFILLED TO THE LETTER.
Does that mean every detail in 100% of all prophecies will be 100% literally fulfilled to 100% of every interpretation's descriptions of such. Of course not. That's silly.
Neither does it mean that the bulk of such things can remotely be rightly spiritualized, alagorized, meally-mouthed into oblivion and meaninglessness.
GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED. HE MEANT WHAT HE SAID. HE WILL FULFILL EVERY MICROSCOPIC EVEN SCRIPTURAL PUNCTUATION POINT TO THE NTH DEGREE. CHRIST AFFIRMED THAT EMPHATICALLY.
Which word of that do you not understand?
Actually, I see eye-to-eye with Quix quite a bit. I've only been reading his/her replies for a few months, but find they are well thought out, researched, not knee-jerk reactions or rubber-stamped phrases (like - that's YOUR interpretation). I'd like to know why you react so strongly to someone you don't "expect much from". Why bother at all?
That's an interesting thought.
I think it is actually 2 different wars. In Ezekiel specific nations, or tribes, are mentioned. In Revelation it is after the 1,000 yr reign and says all nations. Also, for the Antichrist to enter into a treaty with Israel a war that is won by God intervening against middle east nations that hate Israel is beneficial. The Temple has to be rebuilt and the mosque sitting on that site being destroyed in a war preceding the tribulation makes that possible.
Wikipedia has lot of issues, political battles rage on wikipedia, most of the information is control by lefties, not saying this has anything to do with liberalism, but I go with Chuck on this one, he may have his faults but his knowledge of ancient history is pretty darn good.
Thanks for your kind words.
I think . . . probably
. . . most likely . . . most logically . . .
REACTIVE ATTACHMENT DISORDER is a major motivational component on most of the preterist, a-mil, post-mil, run-of-the-mil, rabid RC sorts etc. who are so compulsively addicted to such jousting.
Mine might even be a minor component on my side. LOL.
A major motivation on my side is I hate seeing lurkers left without any substantive, vivid responses to the horrific heresies folks spout who can remotely imagine that
ALMIGHTY GOD
WOULD ABANDON
HIS EVERLASTING PROMISES that HE PROMISED
WOULD REMAIN IN FORCE as long as there were stars.
Folks could get the idea that God’s promises didn’t amount to anything dependable. That’s blasphemous heresy, to me.
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