Posted on 09/03/2009 6:57:00 AM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
“How many people on this thread think they are better, more righteous, than Ted Kennedy?”
Anyone of any faith who is not an utter scoundrel is better than the Champion Swimmer.
>> In 21st century America, never trust a man with a beard. <<
There’s a really bad joke about Bill and Hillary Clinton in there, but this is the religion thread, so I’ll just hint at it.
You are not supposed to permit a funeral mass for someone who is in a state of notorious sin.
Unfortunately, it was a trick question. The right answer is we are all the same. We are all sinners in need of a Savior. There are no good and bad people.
“There are no good and bad people.”
Poppycock.
So Ted’s parish priest told YOU that Ted hadn’t made his Confession as part of the Anointing of the Sick?
Or have you rash judged?
If so, remember that YOU should probably get to Confession before this weekend’s Communion.
Great decision, Greenpees!
I had an absolutely horrible teacher in 8th grade, a phony, or “poser” if you will.
So that was it for me!
Never had anything to do with the educational system again. No high school. No college.
Had a bad dentist when I was a teenager. Never went back to have any dental work done.
Met an arrogant cop. Now I hate ‘em all - law enforcement people are no good.
Stunning logic.
And as for “get a wife while you can” - haven’t you met some of the total nitwits who are married folks?
Why, you’re probably one.
Free grammar lesson: you’re = you are. Your is the possessive. So you wanted “you’re something special.” Not your.
Say, you probably met a bad teacher like I did, left school and never went back!
Except he indeed received the sacrament of Extreme Unction, which removes all mortal sin. I can only assume that he made a good confession and renounced his bloody work as a legislator of infanticide. We’ll never know if, in his last days, he instructed the people around him to issue a public statement on his behalf, renouncing his position on abortion, and it was simply ignored. We just don’t know, so we can only assume the best and leave him to God’s mercy.
Without evidence that he was cursing the Church in his final breath, he was worthy of a funeral mass.
I’d rather be a flawed cardinal, than a self-righteous excommunicant.
I agree with you. The Cardinal's offense, I believe, was in not preserving the dignity of the rite by allowing it to become a political forum/celebrity roast instead of a vehicle for the Church (all of us!) to plead mercy on his soul.
As awful a man as Ted Kennedy was, I pray for him everyday, that he received God's mercy and is in purgatory. All of us want God to be a judge until our number comes up. Then we want Him to be merciful. I'll pray for mercy, not judgment upon Ted Kennedy, and hope for the same when I die.
You do realize, of course, that you are not setting the bar very high?
“The road to hell is paved with the skulls of bishops” - St. John Chrysostom
How prophetic he was.
What American bishops in particular are doing to Christ’s Church is illuminating. There is no technicality in canon law that will help them. They are complicit in the misleading of many Catholics.
Not me.
“We have all sinned and come short of the Glory of God”
Sorry, but confession doesn’t cut it. He’s ex-communicated. Of course, O’Malley does have the authority to Rehabilitate him, but that would be a public act.
>> Without evidence that he was cursing the Church in his final breath, he was worthy of a funeral mass. <<
By his actions, he did such. He stood excommunicated. That takes more than a deathbed confession.
Why on earth would you assume such a thing? Is it not more likely that he confessed without renouncing his promotion of abortion to a priest who either agreed with his stance on abortion or doesn't consider it a grave matter, (especially in light of all the "good" Kennedy had done to promote Marxism, homosexuality, and open borders)?
Kennedy's scandal was a public scandal which required a public confession before he was publicly glorified by the Church.
A Catholic funeral, yes.
A near-canonization, no.
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