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Posted on 07/25/2009 2:40:04 AM PDT by Quix
Amen. May God open their eyes to the truth so they can know there is a lie in their right hand (Isaiah 44.)
THE CALVINISM DEBATE Part 1 of 2
3. CALVINISM’S DOCTRINES ARE CONTRARY TO THE PLAIN TEACHING OF GOD’S WORD.
THE BIBLE VS. THE CALVINIST DOCTRINE THAT FAITH IS A WORK
Calvinism says that grace means man cannot do anything, cannot even believe, because otherwise grace would not be grace and the sinner would have something to boast of.
4. CALVINISM INTERPRETS SCRIPTURE BY THEOLOGY RATHER THAN BY CONTEXT.
Its doctrines are not supported by the plain language of Scripture but are read into the Scripture. In Bible interpretation, the principle rule is to interpret according to the plain language of the text and according to the context.
5. CALVINISM MISSTATES WHAT NON-CALVINISTS BELIEVE.
There are many strawman arguments that the Calvinist erects and defeats, but by defeating them he has only defeated a figment of his own imagination.
Just out of curiosity, have you recently abandoned Calvinism to become a devotee of the prophet-deity J-d (he has the “mind of Christ”)? Are you among the “millions” who have seen UFOs?
Catholic art does not have a canon. An artist is free to make any image he can, from cheaply sentimental to blasphemous. Some of it finds its way into churches. That is very unfortunate, but for that reason you cannot point out to any particular piece of art, vaguely suggestive of Catholicism, and project a Catholic doctrine from it.
Mary with infant Jesus on the cross with adult Jesus is something quite unique. There are many traditional ways to depict the intimacy that exists between Jesus and His mother but this is not one of them. What we have here is one, unique case of artistic license. I have seen much worse.
Were it depicting Mary as actually physically crucified, -- attached to the cross with nails or ropes like Jesus is,-- I would have a serious problem with this cross. As it is, with Mary floating in the air, it simply conveys the perfectly Catholic idea that Mary -- and in fact all faithful Christians -- participate in the suffering of Christ.
[I, St. Paul] rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up those things that are wanting of the sufferings of Christ, in my flesh, for his body, which is the church. (Colossians 1:24)
HORRIFIC.
And they dare to accuse anyone else of blasphemy!
Mind boggling.
INDEED.
And the rabidly duplicitous clique . . .
are soooooooooooo gifted at parsing words and phrases and nuances . . . when it suits them . . .
and deploring such when it suits them.
Takes double-mindedness to a whole new much lower level of the hellish depths of hideousness.
‘That wording . . . not there.’
. . . brazenly ignoring equal wording.
As though no one else would be bright enough to notice!
Sheesh.
INDEED.
You posted: “Rome has not essentially changed. Rome declared that what it said at the time of the Reformation was infallible and could not change. Declared it to be irreformible truth. Rome has not changed and precious truths of God’s word are still worth upholding even at the cost of unity even at the cost of being considered “troublemakers” in the religious world.”
As a Catholic, I find that statement to be completely wonderful and comforting. The Protestant admission that Rome has not changed is the most amazing praise. We are, as Christ promised, still here, still led by the Holy Spirit, still holding fast to the teaching and tradition taught by the Apostles, and still being called “troublemakers.” This happy Catholic finds that exhilarating.
The world has changed. Men have fallen away and started their own churches. But the Catholic Church is virtually the same as it was in the days of the Apostles. The gates of Hell, and Hell’s helpers, have not prevailed against it. Christ started it, prayed for it, and protects and guides it. It is forever. Thank you, Jesus! I am so grateful to be a Catholic Christian.
Another
GROSSLY UNFITTING, GROSSLY UNTRUE
bearing false witness.
Where in the Rosary is this
BEARING FALSE WITNESS RITUAL included?
Given it’s frequency in appearing above Roman Catholic/Vatican Rep names, it MUST be a thoroughly incorporated ritual.
Or is there a collection of lies that the magicsterical exhorts the faithful to spin out, fling out randomly to Prottys just as a matter of course in daily life?
Sorry, but Catholic paintings traditionally depict Mary at the foot of the cross, as she is described in the Bible.
Try to keep up, a QUESTION cannot be false witness or untrue, it is simply a QUESTION.
It is admirable that you can be somewhat candid in putting the best face on it.
Thanks.
NOPE.
Holy Spirit clearly left the cathedrals long ago.
Thankfully, He has returned a bit here and there with some of the Charismatic folks earnestly WORSHIPING GOD AND GOD ALONE IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH.
IIRC,
The same &/or very close wording has been STATED as a statement repeatedly.
Regardless, the intent of the heart is more than a little guessable.
Huh? I don't know any.
“Holy Spirit clearly left the cathedrals long ago.”
Saying that doesn’t make it so.
Christ promised the Holy Spirit would stay with the Church and guide it. He keeps His promises. And, as we just heard, the Church hasn’t changed. Christ warned his followers they’d be called troublemakers. We’re still being called troublemakers today. As far as I can tell, that means we’re doing something right!
(Hello, Quix! I hope you are well and happy today. M.)
When any congregation, any organization
quits being HIS, PUTTING HIM FIRST . . . following HIS VOICE, SPIRIT, WORD,
God Almighty definitely has the option to leave the dry husk shell.
THAT would have NOTHING TO DO with Him leaving HIS CHURCH UNIVERSAL made up of authentic believers of every label and flavor.
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THANKS for your kind thoughts and concerns.
My throat & chest have taken a turn toward serious soreness and worse congestion after being better for several days. Going to rest more and up the homeopathic stuff.
Granny—any good recommendations for sore throat?
You dare to insult praying the gospel?!! The Rosary is praying the gospel..AND it is in scripture. It is most advisable to understand these things...Bless your heart
For many, that’s probably true.
For many, it appears to not be true.
ritual is a very tricky thing to do in a God-pleasing way.
You can put up any sites that you want that wishfully think that Mary is considered Co-Redemptrix however, I have posted to you before and remind everyone on this site that the offical Vatican ruling is that Mary is not a co-redemptrix.
Here is a quote from THE CURRENT Pope Benedict.
The Pope on Co-redemptrix
“Yet when asked, in a 2000 interview by Peter Seewald contained in the book God and the World, whether the Church would go along with the desire to solemnly define Mary as Co-redemptrix, Ratzinger’s response doesn’t look good. He says that the title Co-redemptrix “departs to too great an extent from the language of Scripture and of the Fathers and therefore gives rise to misunderstandings” (53). He also says that “for matters of faith, continuity of terminology with the language of Scripture and that of the Fathers is itself an essential element; it is improper simply to manipulate language” (54). “
The Vatican in 2009 will not allow this. Any other Catholic quotes that you find regarding this may be referred to this quote.
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