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To: vladimir998
As it must be for the Church established by Christ. Christ established the Church BEFORE the New Testament was written. The Church, therefore, is built upon Christ, the Apostles and the truth given to them. Any Church which claims to hve been built upon the Bible must naturally have been established by men and not Christ, and is, therefore, a sect, false and rebellious against Christ.

However, it wasn't YOUR Church that Jesus established...It's a pity your religion gets it's hooks into so many before before they've had a chance to get their hooks into the scripture...

But then I assume they aren't looking for Jesus anyway...They are looking for a religion...

Any Church which claims to hve been built upon the Bible must naturally have been established by men and not Christ

Now that's a crazy statement...

Jesus revealed to Paul how He wanted His church set up...Paul set about to put these instructions on paper and made sure they were read in the churches...And those instructions are ONLY in the scriptures...

70 posted on 07/16/2009 5:13:05 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
However, it wasn't YOUR Church that Jesus established...

Not his Church, but certainly His Church. Christ established the Catholic Church. It is neither mine nor yours nor vlad's.

It is Christ's.

74 posted on 07/16/2009 5:26:18 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Iscool

You wrote:

“However, it wasn’t YOUR Church that Jesus established...”

Yes, actually it was.

“It’s a pity your religion gets it’s hooks into so many before before they’ve had a chance to get their hooks into the scripture...”

Uh, that doesn’t even make sense as a sentence. When you can form a coherent sentence let me know.

“But then I assume they aren’t looking for Jesus anyway...They are looking for a religion...”

We have a religion - Christianity - and it’s from Jesus.

“Now that’s a crazy statement...”

No, it’s perfectly rational. Again, which came first? If the Church came before the New Testament - and it did - then we know the Church is not based on the New Testament. The New Testament is based on the Church’s teachings as handed down from Christ to the Apostles.

“Jesus revealed to Paul how He wanted His church set up...Paul set about to put these instructions on paper and made sure they were read in the churches...And those instructions are ONLY in the scriptures...”

And the Church already existed BEFORE Paul. All Paul did was hand down in writing and orally what was already known and taught.


75 posted on 07/16/2009 5:48:02 PM PDT by vladimir998
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