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To: 1000 silverlings; Dr. Eckleburg
1000, please revisit your post #248 this thread.

I do not remember seeing in the Bible the words "What is faith? It is made up of three things—knowledge, belief, and trust. "

I agree as a common-sense definition, that those are a pretty good description: but I don't remember biblical backing for it.

What I was intending to convey with the question was one definition I heard (from a Lutheran pastor) that grace is "God's unmerited favor."

And the idea there, that if it is unmerited, then we cannot "deserve" it by our faith.

(Opening up several more doctrinal cans of worms, which I was trying to avoid -- it is for that reason I wanted to get common definitions before continuing.)

In the meantime, I recommend a dose of Romans 14, that we should pray for one another.

"It is before his own Master that he stands or falls...God is able to make him stand."

Cheers!

255 posted on 07/15/2009 5:57:10 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Knowledge, given to a believer by the HS

belief and trust

pis'-tis Noun Feminine

Definition conviction of the truth of anything, belief; in the NT of a conviction or belief respecting man's relationship to God and divine things, generally with the included idea of trust and holy fervour born of faith and joined with it relating to God

the conviction that God exists and is the creator and ruler of all things, the provider and bestower of eternal salvation through Christ

relating to Christ

a strong and welcome conviction or belief that Jesus is the Messiah, through whom we obtain eternal salvation in the kingdom of God

the religious beliefs of Christians

belief with the predominate idea of trust (or confidence) whether in God or in Christ, springing from faith in the same

fidelity, faithfulness the character of one who can be relied on

256 posted on 07/15/2009 6:10:39 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: grey_whiskers
Faith is a gift of God, it's a lifeline that leads to the fountainhead of God's Grace

Charis khar'-ece Noun Feminine

Definition

grace

that which affords joy, pleasure, delight, sweetness, charm, loveliness: grace of speech good will, loving-kindness, favour of the merciful kindness by which God, exerting his holy influence upon souls, turns them to Christ, keeps, strengthens, increases them in Christian faith, knowledge, affection, and kindles them to the exercise of the Christian virtues

what is due to grace the spiritual condition of one governed by the power of divine grace the token or proof of grace, benefit a gift of grace benefit, bounty thanks, (for benefits, services, favours), recompense, reward

257 posted on 07/15/2009 6:13:52 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: grey_whiskers; Dr. Eckleburg; betty boop

In the biblical definitions of “grace” and “faith”, if there is an “object” involved, that object is Christ, no other.


258 posted on 07/15/2009 6:18:29 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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