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>> So basically, the more liberal the state, the more Catholics there are. That speaks volumes. <<

If you want to pretend that heavily Catholic Arizona, Texas, Nebraska, etc., are "liberal" states, sure. Seems to me those southwest states and great plains are often more conservative than the bible belt in dixie. >>

West Virginia is United Methodist? No wonder they always vote so liberal. <<

Ah, West Virgina, another state that has one of the least Catholic presence in the U.S. I believe Catholics there are 4% of the population, and last time I checked, Methodists one of the more popular protestant denominations in the U.S. George W. Bush is United Methodist.

I agree they are pretty liberal as a whole though. One time I went to a Methodist church for Ash Weds. They had a big sign out from noting how they welcome people of all "sexual orientations" (pedophiles and polygamists are welcome?). The minister who gave the Ash Weds. ceremony was a female "reverend" who seemed to be her in mid 30s, dressed in plain clothes. I found it rather strange.

With the exception of the southern baptist convention, seems to me the protestant churches with the largest memberships in the U.S. are much more liberal than the Catholic church.

With the exception of the southern baptist convention, seems to me the protestant churches with the largest memberships in the U.S. are much more liberal than the Catholic church.

True, though the Catholic Church is still awfully liberal. If American Catholics actually voted their theology we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.

Of course, I believe in the Torah, and American Jews have about the worst voting record of anyone--including traditionally the Orthodox, who have always been "yellow dog Democrats." I believe it is changing, but it is a shame that it ever had to change at all.

Of course Jews are an ethnic community rather than a universal body, so they have traditionally made a lot of decisions based on this criterion--one which, historically, their survival depended on at one time (though those days are long since over).

Honestly I’ve never been anywhere online that is so blantly anti Catholic as FR is and the biggest problem is the things they spout are the false thigns their churches teach them about Catholism. It’s a shame that they take someone else’s word for what Catholism is,I’d never expect that from Conservatives, but that is the way it is here. Pur church is seeing a large influx of white Lutherns and Episcopalians in the past 2 years. Most are very surprsed that what they were told about Catholism is much different than what the truth is. Sterotypes die hard I guess?

With the exception of the southern baptist convention, seems to me the protestant churches with the largest memberships in the U.S. are much more liberal than the Catholic church.

One measure is presidential elections, Protestants vote republican, Catholics vote democrat.