[Marysecretary]

Try just reading the words. Most of it is pretty simple and straightforward, not needing a lot of interpretation. Jesus says what He means and means what He says.

[bdeaner]

Try just reading the words. Most of it is pretty simple and straightforward, not needing a lot of interpretation. Jesus says what He means and means what He says.

Well in that case, let's take a look at these simple and straightfoward words in this passage right here:

James 2:14-17
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, if a man say he hath faith, but have not works? can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister be naked and in lack of daily food, 16 and one of you say unto them, Go in peace, be ye warmed and filled; and yet ye give them not the things needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17 Even so faith, if it have not works, is dead in itself.

Just reading the words here, it seems pretty simple and straightforward that works are necessary for salvation, and not just faith. Obviously, the simple and straightforward implication is that sola fide is a false doctrine.

Good, glad we took care of that! You're right. It's soooo easy to read Scripture without having any presuppositions whatsoever! Why hadn't I thought of that before? :)

God bless.

[papertyger]

Jesus says what He means and means what He says.

So remind me again of the protestant excuse for taking the thrice mentioned "born again" literally, while figuratively understanding "this is my body" ...mentioned five times.