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A Common Date for Easter is Possible
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| 5/28/09 (?)
| Contact: Juan Michel, World Council of Churches
Posted on 05/28/2009 8:28:16 AM PDT by annalex
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To: Mrs. Don-o
BTW, I apologize for all my typos, past, present, and future. These fingers!!!
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posted on
05/28/2009 10:10:50 AM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
("It's no exaggeration to say that the undecideds could go one way or the other." George Bush)
To: Mrs. Don-o
By another ecumenical council, and since it is a matter decided by the unified Church, it better be a hyper-ecumenical supercouncil with East Orthodox and Catholics together.
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posted on
05/28/2009 10:12:58 AM PDT
by
annalex
(http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
To: annalex
All participants at the seminar in Lviv, which included Orthodox, Roman Catholic and Protestant theologians from a variety of European countries, endorsed a compromise proposed at a World Council of Churches (WCC) consultation in Aleppo, Syria, in 1997.
Whenever I read that the World Council of Churches is involved with anything that has to do with Christianity, I disregard the rest of the story. These people are trying to lead Christians to hell, not Heaven.
Nothing here see people, move along, move along.......
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posted on
05/28/2009 11:02:49 AM PDT
by
FredJake
To: FredJake
Yes, but the topic is by itself fascinating.
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posted on
05/28/2009 11:06:32 AM PDT
by
annalex
(http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
To: annalex
Amen! Here’s one vote for a hyper-ecumenical super-council!
I usually have a strong personal bias in favor of “hyper.” :o)
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posted on
05/28/2009 11:08:46 AM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
("It's no exaggeration to say that the undecideds could go one way or the other." George Bush)
To: Jewbacca
Cool. I love stuff that corresponds to solar/lunar events. Howcome 7 days in Israel, and 8 outside? (Jus’ curious...)
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posted on
05/28/2009 11:12:03 AM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
("It's no exaggeration to say that the undecideds could go one way or the other." George Bush)
To: Mrs. Don-o
Heres one vote for a hyper-ecumenical super-council! I vote no. Neither Church is ready, and unity from top down will not last. That already was tried, at Florence, and did not work.
Conditions favorable to reunification now exist, but the maturity necessary for reunion is not there. What best can be done now is to study each other and, Catholics in particular, to study the patristic Church. The two Churches need to fall in love with each other once again. By and large, it is not happening.
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posted on
05/28/2009 11:20:28 AM PDT
by
annalex
(http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
To: annalex
Yes, but the topic is by itself fascinating.
Maybe it is, but FJ has a point in that the only reason the WCO is involved is to minimize the fundamentalist Christians who still adhere to the written word and have not become leberal bastions of the false church of Satan.
If the Catholic church desires to reconcile it's differences with evangelicals then the Catholic church needs to step back away from any dealings with the WCO. This will only make the Catholic church look even worse to evangelicals then they already do.
I mean give me a break, the Pope just a week or so ago, gave a sermon where he appeased Muslims in one of their Mosques. I highly doubt Christ would have entered a pagan temple, let alone appease the followers of that pagan god. So evangelicals are watching this and saying, "Uhuh, just as we thought, The Anti Christ"!
So, the Catholic's need to get their church leaders to step back from the course their leaders are taking it, not cozy up to the false religions they are in the process of doing.
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posted on
05/28/2009 11:46:57 AM PDT
by
OneVike
(Just a Christian waiting to go home)
To: OneVike
If the Catholic church desires to reconcile it's differences with evangelicals Well, that's a big if. The Evangelicals are welcome to study Catholicism and convert, and of course we are happy to cooperate on some social issues with the Evangelicals (or anyone else), but the doctrinal differences are not reconcileable at all. A reconciliation with the Orthodox is, on the other hand, the logic of history and undoubtedly will happen perhaps even in our lifetimes, but more likely in a couple of generations. Yet it is the calendar issue that visibly separates us from the Orthodox (and the Orthodox within themselves). We do not have calendar issues with the Protestants that I am aware of, except certain judaizing factions of them.
The WCC is a bastion of false ecumenism: the notion that all differences between Christians are reconcileable. As a whole, that is a silly and profoundly heretical idea. However, if they sponsor a technical study on an issue such as this and help the Orthodox and the Catholics find common ground, that is quite salutary.
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posted on
05/28/2009 11:57:40 AM PDT
by
annalex
(http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
To: Mrs. Don-o; Jewbacca
Cool. I love stuff that corresponds to solar/lunar events. Howcome 7 days in Israel, and 8 outside? (Jus curious...)I believe it is Rabbinical, putting a hedge around the law. The correct seven days will be covered by making
it eight days for different time zones.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
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posted on
05/28/2009 12:08:41 PM PDT
by
Uri’el-2012
(Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
To: annalex
Let’s say I’m for the hyer-super with the necessary preconditions.
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posted on
05/28/2009 12:15:47 PM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
("It's no exaggeration to say that the undecideds could go one way or the other." George Bush)
To: XeniaSt; Mrs. Don-o
Correct; there are 8 days really because of historical differences in calendars and just plain error — until the advent of “Greenich Mean Time” (and train timetables) — even “unified” calendars weren’t unified.
So they made it longer in case the local-current date was “off.”
IMHO, it’s unnecessary in this day and time of atomic clocks, and I actually agree with the Reform folks that it should be just 7 days.
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posted on
05/28/2009 12:18:24 PM PDT
by
Jewbacca
(Yes, I am very hairy and good with small arms.)
To: annalex
Do we have Orthodox Old Calendarists around the forum? I guess I don't count, but that's okay. The Russians, Serbs, the Jerusalem Patriarchate and Mt Athos are Old Calendaristsabout 85% of all Orthodox in the world. Now, there may be a reason why they are not on the forum.
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posted on
05/28/2009 12:33:47 PM PDT
by
kosta50
(Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
To: annalex; OneVike
Yet it is the calendar issue that visibly separates us from the Orthodox (and the Orthodox within themselves). There is no division on the issue of Easter. All Orthodox Churches celebrate Easter on the same day, according to the Old Calendar.
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posted on
05/28/2009 12:43:35 PM PDT
by
kosta50
(Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
To: kosta50
I didn’t mean to slight you; I pinged Kolokotronis because he has a ping list, as well as the others to whom I addressed that initial post.
I do not maintain my own ping list any more and instead piggiback on others.
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posted on
05/28/2009 1:10:33 PM PDT
by
annalex
(http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
To: kosta50; OneVike
Correct; the divisions of calendar exist among the Orthodox but not on the paschalia.
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posted on
05/28/2009 1:11:52 PM PDT
by
annalex
(http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
To: crazykatz; JosephW; lambo; MoJoWork_n; newberger; The_Reader_David; jb6; wildandcrazyrussian; ...
Do we have Orthodox Old Calendarists around the forum? Orthodox ping!
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posted on
05/28/2009 2:20:33 PM PDT
by
kosta50
(Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
To: annalex
Kolo gave me the list. It’s on my profile and I ping all of them.
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posted on
05/28/2009 2:23:15 PM PDT
by
kosta50
(Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
To: kosta50
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posted on
05/28/2009 2:28:45 PM PDT
by
annalex
(http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
To: KarlInOhio; Mrs. Don-o
Trying to get it to match up with Passover isn't important.Yes it is. The solemnities of the Christian pasch are fulfillment of the Jewish Passover, whose full moon enabled the Israelites' travel out of Egypt by both night and day. Conforming to this, Christians are reminded of the urgency with which we are called to escape death and cross over into life.
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posted on
05/28/2009 2:45:59 PM PDT
by
Romulus
("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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