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To: MrB
is there any biblical justification for the assertion that man’s nature is “basically good”?

I've seen, up close and personal, that mankind is not intrinsically good. I've had dinner with a mass murderer and I've stood up to my waist in piles of the dead.

I do not believe there is any Scriptural justification for the position that man is basically good. There is quite a bit of Scriptural justification for the opposite position, that man is, by nature, evil. Of course, you'd expect a Calvinist who believes in total depravity (or, as R.C. Sproul calls it, radical corruption) to hold that position. :)

23 posted on 05/04/2009 1:04:20 PM PDT by Terabitten (Vets wrote a blank check, payable to the Constitution, for an amount up to and including their life.)
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To: Terabitten

The very essence of the Bible is about

Creation, Fall, Redemption, Re-Creation,

with man being intrinsically wicked since the Fall.

I’ve had “Christians” insist that my “interpretation” wasn’t right. However, they mostly just asserted that they “didn’t like that interpretation”. I guess, if you don’t like the main and plain message of the scripture, you have to marginalize it or just call it allegory.

I have yet to have anyone rise to my challenge to come up with scripture justifying that viewpoint
when they assert that man is basically good .


25 posted on 05/04/2009 1:10:51 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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Hmmm...interesting.

The writer makes a list of arguments that he can’t refute effectively.

Note the humungous list.

Then he says it is not fair to use them. Then a call for end of debate and compliance to the list

Seems like an Olberfuhrer msnbc sort of strategy.

I’d make up my own list on the Protestant side, but I don’t want to insult people’s intelligence.

Yeesh.


26 posted on 05/04/2009 1:12:49 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("We Are All Socialists Now"........not me, not now, not ever)
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