Posted on 05/03/2009 9:53:16 AM PDT by OneVike
It has been the aim of the Democrat party since they lost the Presidential election in 2004 to subvert the Christian doctrine with the claim that Jesus was a socialist. Their goal is to convince Christians that their Social agenda is morally equivalent with the teachings and life of Jesus Christ. Considering the lack of historical and Biblical knowledge most Americans have, it is not surprising that many have fallen for the misinformation on what Jesus taught (and for whom the teachings were given). These Biblical revisionists have become especially adept at cherry picking Scripture to suit their agenda. Hence, many have come to misunderstand the gospel of Christ by equating it with modern day Socialism.
My first point of contention with the idea that Christ was a socialist, is His teachings and the example of His life. Throughout the time that Christ lived with His disciples, He never worked. Instead he was dependent upon the charity and good hearts of those who surrounded Him. Now that is not to say Jesus was lazy or a bum either. Jesus was always about His Fathers business, and that business was the salvation of mankind. Nowhere in the Scriptures will you find Jesus telling His followers to rely upon anyone except those who were willing to hear the gospel and share what they had. If the people refused to hear the gospel or be charitable, Jesus told His disciples to rebuke them and go to others who were willing to hear the teachings, as when He sent them out by pairs. (Matthew chapter 10)
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Socialism - “Any of various political philosophies that support social and economic equality, collective decision-making, and public control of productive capital and natural resources, as advocated by socialists”
Jesus never supported any such socialism!
Jesus preached and taught to INDIVIDUALS — that individuals should love and give voluntarily! He never advocated that the State should take care of people nor that confiscatory taxes was the way to prosperity!
Jesus is a socialist in the same way that God is a dictator.
Human political terms are utterly inadequate to fully describe divinity.
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams --October 11, 1798
Remove me from the list, please.
Awesome point, and there are many similar points to show that Christ did not usher in Social justice, but salvation for mankind.
Don't be deceived by the propaganda of the MSM.
99% of capitalists (that is, each and everyone of us who wakes up and makes use of freedom, a free-market system, our interests and natural abilities to make a living) are honest, hard-working people.
The 1% that are greedy or criminal are the ones the MSM uses to denounce capitalism and call for its death by a thousand nicks, as Keynes said.
And let's not pretend that non- or anti-capitalists are somehow free of greed and dishonesty.
Greed is satisfied by two main vices: money and power. But they have the same unquenchable goal: worldly prominence. Those who seek money, do so because they believe it will make them powerful. Those who seek power do so because they believe it will make them wealthy.
And let's also be sure we do not confuse capitalists with corporatists, more and more of whom are becoming corporate socialists, colluding with government to establish monopoles. These are not capitalists, they are socialists. And they give all capitalists a bad name.
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And look at past and present socialistic/statist forms of government. Do the people prosper???? Rather the elitist, selfish leaders live in greed and exalted pomp!
If... you are born again you also are a King and Priest..
How will YOU deal with the kingdom that has been given to you?..
Jesus is King of Kings.. How will you deal with those you have given to deal with?..
Tough love, or weak coddling.. or with fear and trembling by prayer?..
Its not easy being a King...
What kind of car would he drive? Prius or BMW? Paper or plastic? These are the real burning issues.
“Jesus was apolitical. His words prove it; Render unto Caeser the things that are Caesar’s and to God the things that are God’s... Matthew 22:21 “
Thats not really the context of that verse. Jesus commanded us to abide by the rule of our government. He also said that if our leaders misused their authority they would be severely judged.
Rom 13:1
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except by God’s appointment, 1 and the authorities that exist have been instituted by God.
Job 34:17
Do you really think 1 that one who hates justice can govern? 2 And will you declare guilty the supremely righteous 3 One,
Shades of the old days .. spirited (get it?) discourse.
God bless us, every one.
no, they died instantly because they rejected the truth of the Holy Spirit
Holy Joan Brown Campbell, Batman! ;-P
II Thessalonians 3:10 proves that neither Christ nor His apostles were socialists:
2 Thess. 3:10 - For even when we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either.
2 Thess 3:11-12 - For we hear that some among you are leading an undisciplined life, doing no work at all, but acting like busybodies. Now such persons we command and exhort in the Lord Jesus Christ to work in quiet fashion and eat their own bread.
Since socialism by its nature takes the profit of the producers and gives it to the non-producers or from the workers to the non-workers.....do any of the above verses sound like socialism to you???? Rather the command is quite specific: If a man will not work, he don’t eat! Likewise a man is work and reap the product of his own hands in the command “eat their own bread” not the neighbor’s bread. No food stamps, no welfare, no wealth redistribution. Zip, nada, nothing. That’s capitalism folks, not socialism.
“Wasn’t there a man and wife who died instantly when they didn’t give 100% of their money to the Apostles? That’s taxation Democrats would love (not applicable to themselves, of course).” ~ Moonman62
Not for the reason you imply. They died because they LIED.
Here, allow me to explain by posting one of my email exchanges with a commie/socialist who said this:
“..And if you wish to get a good sense of the primative communism of the early Church, read Acts 2:44-45; 4:14-15. Marx summed up this spirit and practice perfectly in his summation of communism: “From each according to his ability to each according to his need.” ~ Bob S.
My response:
Like Proudhon , the French socialist, you draw a different conclusion from Scripture than the Framers of our Constitution did.
They knew that the sort of socialism that conforms to the biblical worldview is the form that is commonly practiced on a small scale within families, within churches, and other organizations. It is always going to be a voluntary sharing of resources.
The Bible teaches that the church and the family should care for the poor rather than the state.
8th Commandment: You shall not steal. This is a guarantee of private property.
10th Commandment: You shall not covet. Again, a guarantee of private property.
Acts 5: Barnabas sellls a piece of property and brought the money to the Apostles.
Ananias and Saphira decided to do the same - except they sold a property - kept some of the money back - and lied about how much they had been paid.
Peter said, ‘Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit, and to keep back part of the price of the land? While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own power?’ “
There you go! An apostolic confirmation of the right of private property. Not only the means of production, but also the results of that production were in Ananias’ and Saphira’s power, not in the power or hands of the state or the church.
Proudhon , the French socialist said, “Property is theft.”
But the commandment forbidding theft teaches the right of private property and is in complete contradiction to socialist concepts. bttt
Thanks again, I did make that exact point in my article.
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