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The Good Friday-Easter Sunday Question
Good News Magazine ^ | March 2000 | Wilber Berg

Posted on 04/10/2009 10:32:45 AM PDT by DouglasKC

The Good Friday—Easter Sunday Question

How do the biblical three days and three nights after Jesus Christ's crucifixion fit between Friday afternoon and Sunday morning? Or do they?

by Wilbur Berg

Consider these important facts. First, Easter Sunday is traditionally revered as the day of Jesus' resurrection—although the Bible clearly states that He had already risen before Sunday dawned in the city of Jerusalem.

Second, even though Good Friday is generally observed as the traditional day of His crucifixion, Christ Himself told the disciples that He would be in the grave for all of three days and three nights. How can three days and three nights possibly fit between a Friday-afternoon crucifixion and a Sunday-morning resurrection?

Third, the word Easter is not found in the Greek New Testament. Nor is there biblical mention of or instruction to observe Lent.

Finally, unlike the specific instruction to commemorate Christ's death, there is absolutely no commandment in the New Testament to observe the date of Jesus' resurrection. Yet today's religious customs are so ingrained in the church calendar that many would consider it heretical to question them.

Most of the world is scarcely aware that the original apostles did not institute or keep these customs, nor were they observed by the early Christian Church. Try as you might to find them, Lent, Good Friday and Easter are not so much as mentioned in the original Greek wording of the New Testament. (The word Easter appears only once in the King James Version of the Bible—in Acts 12:4—where it is flagrantly mistranslated from the Greek word pascha, which should be translated "Passover," as most versions render it.)

The justification for the Lenten 40-day preparation for Easter is traditionally based on Jesus' 40-day wilderness fast before His temptation by Satan (Harper's Bible Dictionary, "Lent"; Matthew 4:1-2; Mark 1:13). The problem with this explanation is that this incident is not connected in any way with Jesus' supposed observance of Easter. The 40-day pre-Easter practice of fasting and penance did not originate in the Bible.

Pagan practices adopted

Many people still follow such practices, assuming that such activities honor God and are approved by Him. But, we should ask, how does God regard such extrabiblical customs? Consider God's instructions to those who would worship Him:

"Take heed to yourself that you are not ensnared to follow them, after they are destroyed from before you, and that you do not inquire after their gods, saying, 'How did these nations serve their gods? I also will do likewise.' You shall not worship the Lord your God in that way; for every abomination to the LORD which He hates they have done to their gods; for they burn even their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods. Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it" (Deuteronomy 12:30-32, emphasis added throughout).

The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia notes: "The term Easter was derived from the Anglo-Saxon 'Eostre,' the name of the goddess of spring. In her honor sacrifices were offered at the time of the vernal [spring] equinox" (1982, Vol. 2, "Easter").

Many battles were fought over its observance date, but the Council of Nicea finally fixed the date of Easter in A.D. 325 to fall on the first Sunday after the full moon on or after the vernal equinox (March 21).

Not generally known is that "the preparation for Easter season, beginning on Ash Wednesday and continuing for a week after Easter Day, was filled with pagan customs that had been revised in the light
of Christianity. Germanic nations, for example, set bonfires in spring. This custom was frowned on by the Church, which tried to suppress it . . . In the sixth and seventh centuries [monks] came to Germany, [bringing] their earlier pagan rites[,] and would bless bonfires outside the church building on Holy Saturday. The custom spread to France, and eventually it was incorporated into the Easter liturgy of Rome in the ninth century. Even today the blessing of the new fire is part of the Vigil of Easter.

"Medieval celebrations of Easter began at dawn. According to one old legend, the sun dances on Easter morning, or makes three jumps at the moment of its rising, in honor of Christ's resurrection. The rays of light penetrating the clouds were believed to be angels dancing for joy.

"Some Easter folk traditions that have survived today are the Easter egg, rabbit and lamb. During medieval times it was a tradition to give eggs at Easter to servants. King Edward I of England had 450 eggs boiled before Easter and dyed or covered with gold leaf. He then gave them to members of the royal household on Easter day. The egg was an earlier pagan symbol of rebirth and was presented at the spring equinox, the beginning of the pagan new year.

"The Easter rabbit is mentioned in a German book of 1572 and also was a pagan fertility symbol. The Easter lamb goes back to the Middle Ages; the lamb, holding a flag with a red cross on a white field, represented the resurrected Christ [rather than the sacrifice of His life, as a fulfillment of the Passover lamb, that paid for the sins of the world (John 1:29)]" (Anthony Mercatante, Facts on File Encyclopedia of World Mythology and Legend, 1988, "Easter").

Passover out, Easter in

Easter traditions are embraced by many who profess Christianity. Yet none of these practices are found in the Bible or the customs of the early Church. Jesus and His apostles did not establish or perpetuate such practices, which obscure the true biblical meanings and observances of this time of year. In fact, a fourth-century church historian, Socrates Scholasticus, wrote in his Ecclesiastical History that neither the apostles nor the Gospels taught the observance of Easter, nor did they or Jesus give a law requiring the keeping of this feast. Instead, "the observance originated not by legislation, but as a custom" (chapter 22, emphasis added).

Even as early as the close of the second century, the theologian Irenaeus bore witness in his letter to Victor, bishop of Rome, that some early Roman bishops forbade the observance of Passover on the 14th of Nisan. This was the date of the biblical observance practiced each spring by Jesus and the apostles. At the time that the Nisan 14 Passover observance was banned, ecclesiastical authorities introduced Lent and Easter into Christian practice.

Distorting Jesus' words

A century later the Syriac Didascalia recorded the attempts of teachers in Rome to reconcile Jesus' words that He would be entombed "three days and three nights in the heart of the earth" (Matthew 12:40) with a Friday-afternoon crucifixion and a Sunday-morning resurrection. According to their reasoning, Jesus' sufferings were part of the three days and three nights of Scripture. Friday morning from 9 to noon was counted as the first day, and noon to 3 p.m. (which was darkened) was considered the first night. Three in the afternoon to sunset was reckoned as the second day, whereas Friday night to Saturday morning constituted the second night. The daylight part of Saturday was the third day, and the night portion to Sunday morning was the third night.

In other words, the three days and three nights in the grave that Jesus said would be the sign that He was indeed sent from God were transformed into a period of two days and two nights, or a total of no more than 48 hours. This has subsequently been reduced even further in modern times by figuring from late afternoon Friday to early Sunday morning, which takes away another 12 hours or more. Such reasoning has to discount or somehow explain away Jesus' clear promise that He would be entombed three days and three nights.

Easter and Lent are nonbiblical and were not observed by the apostles or the first-century Church. The biblical record shows, however, that the early Church diligently kept other observances, the New Testament Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread, just as Jesus and the apostles had done (Matthew 26:17-19; Acts 20:6; 1 Corinthians 5:8; 11:23-26). These were supplanted in later years by the customs and practices of Easter and Lent.

Passover is an annual reminder of Jesus' sacrificial death to pay the penalty for our sins (Matthew 26:26-28). The Feast of Unleavened Bread is a celebration that focuses on a Christian's need to live in sincerity, truth and purity (1 Corinthians 5:8). The nonbiblical festivals of Lent and Easter, added decades after the time of Jesus Christ and the apostles, only cloud the true significance of Christ's life, death and resurrection and the purpose of His coming.

The Passover, instituted in Exodus 12, continues by Jesus Christ's example and command—but with a change of symbols. Jesus' death fulfilled the symbolism of the sacrificial Passover lamb (Matthew 26:17-28; John 1:29). However, the New Testament Passover has been improperly replaced as an annual memorial of the death of Christ by Easter. We are commanded to commemorate Christ's death, not His resurrection (1 Corinthians 11:23-28).

Facts about Jesus' last days

Jesus Christ's promise was fulfilled exactly as He said, a fact that is made clear when we study and compare the Gospel accounts. These records give a clear, logical explanation that is perfectly consistent with Christ's words. Let's focus on Jesus' last days on earth to gain the proper perspective and understanding of how and when these events occurred.

Jesus said that, like the prophet Jonah, He would be entombed three days and three nights and that He would be raised up the third day after His crucifixion and death (Matthew 12:39-40; 17:23; 20:19). Putting these scriptures together, we see that He was resurrected at the end of the third day after His death. Luke 23:44 shows that He died around the ninth hour (Jewish reckoning), or 3 p.m. He would have been buried within the next few hours so that His body could be entombed before the approaching Sabbath (John 19:31).

Jesus' resurrection could not have been
on a Sunday morning because John 20:1-2 shows that He had already risen before Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early in the morning, arriving "while it was still dark." Therefore, neither could His death have occurred Friday afternoon, since that would not allow for His body to be in the grave three days and three nights. Clearly, the Good Friday-Easter Sunday explanation and tradition is without scriptural foundation.

Notice also that John 19:31 mentions that the Sabbath immediately after Jesus' death was "a high day"—not the weekly seventh-day Sabbath (from Friday evening to Saturday evening), but one of the annual Sabbaths, the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread (see Leviticus 23:6-7), which can fall on any day of the week.

In fact, two Sabbaths—first an annual Holy Day and then the regular weekly Sabbath—are mentioned in the Gospel accounts, a detail overlooked by most people. This can be proven by comparing Mark 16:1 with Luke 23:56.

Mark's account tells us, "Now when the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, that they might come and anoint Him" (Mark 16:1). However, Luke's account describes how the women who followed Jesus saw how His body was laid in the tomb. "Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils" for the final preparation of the body. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment" (Luke 23:56).

Mark tells us that the women bought the spices after the Sabbath, "when the Sabbath was past." Luke, however, tells us that they prepared the spices and oils, "and they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment." How could the women have bought spices after the Sabbath, yet then prepared them and rested on the same Sabbath?

That is obviously impossible—unless two Sabbaths are involved, with a day between them. Once we realize this, the two accounts become clear (see "The Chronology of Christ's Crucifixion and Resurrection," p. 18). Christ died near 3 p.m. and was placed in the tomb near sunset that day—a Wednesday in the year 31. That evening began the "high day" Sabbath, the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which fell on Thursday that year. The women rested on that day, then on Friday purchased and prepared the spices and oils for Jesus' body, which could not be done on either the Holy Day or the weekly Sabbath. They then rested again on the weekly Sabbath before going to the tomb before daybreak on Sunday morning, at which time they discovered that Christ had already been resurrected.

Two Sabbaths confirmed in text

The fact that two Sabbaths are involved is confirmed by Matthew 28:1, where the women went to the tomb "after the Sabbath." The Sabbath mentioned here is actually plural in the original Greek and should be translated "Sabbaths." Some Bible versions, including Alfred Marshall's Interlinear Greek-English New Testament, Ferrar Fenton's translation, Green's Literal Translation and Young's Literal Translation, make this clear.

Once we realize that two Sabbaths were involved—first an annual Holy Day, which was observed from Wednesday evening until Thursday evening, and the normal weekly Sabbath from Friday evening to Saturday evening, the fulfillment of Christ's words becomes clear.

The Savior of all humanity died near 3 p.m. on Wednesday and was buried shortly before sunset that day. From Wednesday sunset to Thursday sunset is one day and one night; from then until Friday sunset is two days and two nights; and from then until Saturday sunset is three days and three nights. Jesus Christ was resurrected at the end of this three-day and three-night period, near sunset on Saturday. Thus He was already risen long before the women came to the tomb before daylight on Sunday morning.

Jesus Christ's words were thus perfectly fulfilled, as verified by the Gospel accounts. He was not crucified on Friday afternoon, nor was He resurrected on a Sunday morning. The biblical evidence shows the Good Friday-Easter Sunday tradition to be a fabrication.

A correct harmonization of all the facts demonstrates that Jesus died near 3 p.m. that Wednesday afternoon, was entombed near sunset and was resurrected near sunset on Saturday, exactly three days and three nights later—just as He had stated. These are the facts, the correct biblical chronology that verifies the identity of Jesus Christ as the Son of God.

The chart on page 18 gives a day-by-day chronology of these events as described in the Gospel accounts.

The biblical festivals

Actually, the principal festivals and holidays observed by mainstream Christendom are a poor and pale reflection of true biblical teachings. Easter and Lent are a poor substitute for the wondrous truths revealed by keeping God's feasts.

The New Testament Church continued to observe the annual Passover to commemorate the death of Jesus Christ, but used the new symbols of bread and wine that He instituted (1 Corinthians 11:23-28). Today the members of the United Church of God commemorate this eminently important event in the same manner, in accordance with Christ's instructions. Again, the Bible contains no record of the Church observing Easter or Lent during the time of the apostles, nor any biblical command to observe Good Friday or Easter Sunday, especially since Christ did not die on Good Friday and was not resurrected on Easter Sunday. Instead, the apostles faithfully followed Christ's instructions to observe the biblical Passover "in remembrance" of Him (Luke 22:19; 1 Corinthians 11:24-25). GN


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To: Petronski
The move from the 7th day sabbath instituted by God to the 1st day holy day instituted by the Church founded by Christ is based on Scripture and the Tradition of the Catholic Church, which is all the support necessary.

That's not what your cardinal, Cardinal Gibbons said:

“Faith of Our Fathers,” 110th ed., p. 89: “You may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and YOU WILL NOT FIND A SINGLE LINE AUTHORIZING THE SANCTIFICATION OF SUNDAY. THE SCRIPTURES ENFORCE THE RELIGIOUS OBSERVANCE OF SATURDAY, a day which we never sanctify.”

Was Cardinal Gibbons wrong? He completely disagrees with you in that he says scripture has nothing to do with it. He says the opposite in fact. He agrees with those who have argued for the bible. He says the bible enforces religious observance of Saturday.

Why would Christians worship on the feast day of the pagan god Saturn, rather than the day of Christ’s Resurrection?

God sanctified and made holy the day of Christ's resurrection at the beginning of time:

Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

He then incorporated his holy day into the 10 commandments:

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

He did this so that the people would not forget who their Lord is, was, and always will be. Unfortunately many have.

601 posted on 04/19/2009 10:14:27 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Petronski
Do you think Jesus is saying that Jonah wasn't really in the fish 3 days and 3 nights and so he wouldn't really be buried 3 days and 3 nights?
Christ is merely associating His death and Resurrection with the Jonah typology, for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.
He often spoke in metaphors, and there is no reason to believe He meant to lock us into a rigidly-delineated, strictly-defined 72-hour period.

He didn't mean what he said? How long was Jonah in the fish for?

602 posted on 04/19/2009 10:15:32 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
Dunno if this has been posted already on this huge thread, but this seems to address all the points in the OP.

Crucifixion Wednesday.

603 posted on 04/19/2009 10:22:31 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven
Dunno if this has been posted already on this huge thread, but this seems to address all the points in the OP. Crucifixion Wednesday.

Thanks for the contribution. The only defense that most seem to make to explain away Jesus saying "three days and three nights" is to say that it can mean "parts" of days and nights. The author at the link uses this defense. For a rational defense see The Three Days and Three Nights of Matthew 12:40

604 posted on 04/19/2009 10:48:01 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
He didn't mean what he said?

Not literally. Or was He buried in the heart of the earth?

605 posted on 04/19/2009 11:01:12 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: DouglasKC
For a rational defense see . . .

That's a rationalizing defense.

606 posted on 04/19/2009 11:02:24 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: DouglasKC
...YOU WILL NOT FIND A SINGLE LINE AUTHORIZING...

Authorizing? No. The Church did that, as is Her right and role to do so. Scripture gives us the reason WHY we would do so: Christ rose from the dead on Easter Sunday.

I said "based on" not "authorized by Scripture alone." After all, "Scripture alone" (sola scriptura) is a false tradition of men.

607 posted on 04/19/2009 11:06:34 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: DouglasKC
Was Cardinal Gibbons wrong?

No, I don't think so.

He completely disagrees with you...

No he doesn't.

...in that he says scripture has nothing to do with it.

No, he did not say that.

608 posted on 04/19/2009 11:08:40 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: DouglasKC
God sanctified and made holy the day of Christ's resurrection at the beginning of time:

I'm sure He did. But not in that verse. Christ rose on Easter Sunday.

609 posted on 04/19/2009 11:10:05 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: DouglasKC
That's an interesting article, but it doesn't seem to address the point of an "onah" as mentioned in the Catholic Answers article. Specifically, this point: ""In rabbinical thought a day and a night make an onah, and a part of an onah is as the whole. . . . Thus according to Jewish tradition, ‘three days and three nights’ need mean no more than ‘three days’ or the combination of any part of three separate days" (Expositor’s Bible Commentary, 8:296)."

The term onah can also refer to the length of the menstrual cycle. Halachically, we assume that the onah beinonit, or "average interval," is thirty days long. So, from that we can see that the period Jonah was in the fish, and the period that Jesus was in the heart of the earth could be described as an "onah" itself, literally a "period of time", but not one necessarily only 72 hours long. It could be also shorter, as the menstrual cycle of a woman can be shorter than 30 days.

610 posted on 04/19/2009 11:11:11 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Petronski
He didn't mean what he said?
Not literally. Or was He buried in the heart of the earth?

Sure. The word translated "heart" can also be translated "midst" and it was a fairly common way for a Hebrew to express themselves. I would say it's poetic rather than figurative or analogous. If he didn't mean it to mean "three days and three nights" why compare it to an event that everyone understood to be three days and three nights?

611 posted on 04/19/2009 11:14:55 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
..."midst"...

From the root word for middle. Your problem remains.

If he didn't mean it to mean "three days and three nights" why compare it to an event that everyone understood to be three days and three nights?

If He didn't mean "in the heart of the earth," why say "in the heart of" the earth, rather than just in "the earth?"

612 posted on 04/19/2009 11:17:40 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: FourtySeven; DouglasKC; XeniaSt
From the article: Some advocates of a Wednesday crucifixion concede that Jesus was crucified on the day before a Sabbath, but deny that this was the regular, weekly Sabbath. In later times, the phrase "day of preparation" came to be used to refer to the day before Passover and, this argument goes, Passover counted as a Sabbath in the sense that it was a day of rest, even though it usually did not fall on the weekly Sabbath. Thus Jesus was crucified on the day before Passover and had to be buried hurriedly on that account. But this explanation will not do. In the first century, "the day of preparation" referred to Friday, not the day before Passover. Further, we know from Scripture that the Sabbath following Jesus’ crucifixion was the regular, weekly Sabbath, the seventh day of the week: "Now after the Sabbath, toward the dawn of the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the sepulcher" (Matt. 28:1).

Let me first just say BALDERDASH!

Luke clearly states that the day on which Our Lord was buried was the Preparation, and the Sabbath was fast approaching [Luke 23:54]. The Good Friday/Easter Sunday proponents insist that this word is a Jewish technical term which can only mean the Friday before a weekly Sabbath. However, this position is refuted by many reputable sources.

In the New Testament the day of preparation, the day on which the Hebrews made the necessary preparation to celebrate a sabbath or a feast: (page 486, Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament.

PREPARATION (Gk. paraskeue, a "making ready"). In the Hebrew sense, the day of preparation was the day on which the Hebrews made the necessary preparation to celebrate a Sabbath or festival (page 1028, The New Unger's Bible Dictionary, emphasis added).

All the Gospel passages where "paraskeue" occurs identify the Hebrew day of Preparation as the day of the crucifixion of Our Lord. But inasmuch as the Sabbath mentioned in the narratives of the crucifixion is evidently the Passover Sabbath of that year [Mark 15:42]]Luke 23:54][Luke 23:56][John 19:31], and John's Gospel expressly calls the preparation day in question "the Preparation of the Passover" [John 19:14], the determination of the exact day for "the Preparation" during which Christ was crucified depends on the time when the Passover was celebrated that year.

Passover takes place on the 14th of the Hebrew lunar month Nisan, "Josephus" [Antiquities III,X,5], and is the greatest of the "Special Sabbaths" in the Hebrew year. But as a fixed date in a lunar month, its relation to the days of the week varied. Thus, while Friday is the usual day of preparation for the normal weekly Sabbath, the precise dating of the preparation for the Passover SABBATWN mentioned in the Gospels depends on the dating of the Passover for that year. (page 953, vol. 3, "Preparation, Day of," The International Standard Bible Dictionary).

The Good Friday/Easter Sunday proponents contention that "the Preparation Day" ONLY refers to Friday is clearly unsupportable. This "Preparation Day of the Passover" [John 19:14] would have been Wednesday, Nisan 14 and the resurrection Saturday morning sometime during the darkness of the 17th. Wednesday/Wednesday night =1 day 1 night/ Thursday/Thursday night = 2 days 2 nights/ Friday/Friday night = 3 days 3 nights and coming out of the tomb sometime Sabbath morning......before sunrise!

More mainstream tradition......Busted!

613 posted on 04/19/2009 11:21:41 AM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618; TaraP

I believe we have had this conversation before, on a thread started by TaraP about simply the “Sabbath”. Suffice it to say, I do not buy the “SABBATWN” argument you propose. For reasons more complex than I’ll state at this time, I reject it simply because, in my research for our last discussion, I discovered that it was common at the time for the Jews to name the days of the week “1st after the Sabbath, 2nd after the Sabbath”, and so on.

Thus, for example, this is the meaning of “SABBATWN” in Matt 28:1, for example, and this is why I believe the phrase “first day of the week” is translated correctly. I have seen no other source to convince me otherwise either. No other source, that is, other than pro-COG/WWCoG sources.


614 posted on 04/19/2009 11:29:29 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Diego1618
The Good Friday/Easter Sunday proponents...

In other words, virtually all of Christendom....they're all wrong and your little sect is right.

615 posted on 04/19/2009 11:36:43 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Petronski
Midst From the root word for middle. Your problem remains.

I don't have a problem defending the words of Jesus. It's part of my charge as a Christian. Of "midst" and "heart" EW Bullinger says:

In the expression, "the heart of the earth" (Matthew 12:40), the meaning is the same as "the heart of the sea", "heart" being put by the Figure of Speech, Metonymy (of the Subject), Appendix 6, for "the midst", and is frequently so translated. See Psalm 46:2. Jeremiah 51:1. Ezekiel 27:4, 25, 26, 27; 28:2. It is used of ships when sailing "in the heart of the seas", that is to say, in, or on the sea. See Ezekiel 27:25, 26; 28:8; also of people dwelling in the heart of the seas, that is to say, on islands (Ezekiel 28:2). Jonah uses the Hebrew beten (= womb) in the same way (2:2).

If he didn't mean it to mean "three days and three nights" why compare it to an event that everyone understood to be three days and three nights?
If He didn't mean "in the heart of the earth," why say "in the heart of" the earth, rather than just in "the earth?"

Well I have to say you're going through a lot of effort to discredit the entire verse so you can hold on to your tradition. How long was Jonah in the fish?

616 posted on 04/19/2009 11:39:15 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Diego1618
This "Preparation Day of the Passover" [John 19:14] would have been Wednesday, Nisan 14 and the resurrection Saturday morning sometime during the darkness of the 17th. Wednesday/Wednesday night =1 day 1 night/ Thursday/Thursday night = 2 days 2 nights/ Friday/Friday night = 3 days 3 nights and coming out of the tomb sometime Sabbath morning......before sunrise!

Besides, if I may also interject here, something has always bugged me since our last exchange about this entire discussion and claim of a "Sabbath ressurection". Any critic of the traditional "Friday Crucifixion/Sunday Resurrection" who bases such criticism on the literalness of the "three day/three night" phrase seems to suffer from the same problem they claim the tradition suffers. The quote from you here proves that. If Jesus rose from the dead "sometime during the darkness of the 17th [of Nisan]", then that's not exactly 72 hours either, from Wed afternoon to Saturday early morning, is it? Isn't that less than 72 hours too?

Let's say Jesus died at approximately 6 PM on Wed. 24 hours later would be Thurs at 6. 48 hours later would be Friday at 6. 72 hours later would be Sat, at 6 PM, not sometime in the morning of Saturday. So I guess you don't believe in the literalness of the Jonah account either.

617 posted on 04/19/2009 11:41:58 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: DouglasKC
Well I have to say you're going through a lot of effort to discredit the entire verse so you can hold on to your tradition.

I'm not discrediting the other verse, I have demonstrated it is only figurative, and the tradition is not mine, as I am just a man. Rather it is the Holy Tradition of the Church founded by Christ (the Second Person of the Holy Trinity).

No burden remains for me. I reject both sola scriptura and sola Bullinger and all the juicy rationalizations that come with such errant traditions of men.

618 posted on 04/19/2009 11:42:59 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: DouglasKC
How long was Jonah in the fish?

Precisely 259,200,000 milliseconds, +/- 0.00%.

619 posted on 04/19/2009 11:45:59 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Petronski
I reject both sola scriptura and sola Bullinger and all the juicy rationalizations that come with such errant traditions of men.

Indeed.

620 posted on 04/19/2009 11:47:22 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("From hell's heart I stab at thee... I spit my last breath at thee." ~ Khan Noonien Singh)
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