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'Exciting discovery' reveals Henry VIII as firm believer in Catholicism
Telegraph ^ | April 3, 2009 | Roya Nikkhah

Posted on 04/06/2009 7:41:52 AM PDT by NYer

A prayer roll once belonging to Henry and inscribed with his own handwriting, has been brought to light ahead of a major new exhibition on his life.

It will be shown in public for the first time at the British Library's exhibition Henry VIII: Man and Monarch, which opens later this month and marks the 500th anniversary of Henry's accession to the throne.

The roll, which is around 13 feet long and 5 inches wide, is made of narrow strips of parchment stitched together.

It bears Henry's official badge of arms and the Tudor rose, and is decorated with a series of illuminations including the Trinity, the Crucifixion and scenes from Christ's Passion.

Under the central image of Christ's Passion is an inscription written by Henry, which reads: "Willyam Thomas, I pray yow pray for me your lovyng master: Prynce Henry."

The roll is also inscribed with Latin prayers and rubrics, or religious instructions, explaining how the devotions are to be performed and what rewards the faithful might expect, such as remission of time in Purgatory and protection against illness.

It is believed that the teenage Henry gave the roll to William Thomas, one of his personal servants in his Privy Chamber, some time between 1505 and 1509, when Henry was the Prince of Wales.

The prayer roll will go on loan to the British Library from Ushaw College, a seminary for the formation of Catholic priests in Durham, which has owned the roll since the mid-19th century.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Catholic; History; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: henryviii; uk
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1 posted on 04/06/2009 7:41:53 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

The bede (prayer roll), which has never been publicly exhibited before, was owned and used by Henry when he was Prince of Wales
2 posted on 04/06/2009 7:42:48 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer

Why is this such an “exciting discovery”? Scholars have long known that, his divorces and political motives aside, Henry privately believed himself to be more Catholic than the Pope.


3 posted on 04/06/2009 7:43:36 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Defender of the Faith


4 posted on 04/06/2009 7:44:44 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

You’ve got me. I don’t think it’s a surprise either, except maybe to the reporter named Royah Nikkah who may not be versed in English history.


5 posted on 04/06/2009 7:45:53 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Because the people of today are ignorant of history. This is widely known in Catholic history circles. Martin Luther is proported to have died as a Catholic as well.


6 posted on 04/06/2009 7:46:04 AM PDT by wombtotomb
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To: NYer

Interesting find, but not earth-shattering. It was largely his political/personal motives that led to the split by Henry....not religious objections. That was led by others.


7 posted on 04/06/2009 7:48:36 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: NYer

Despite Henry’s establishment of the Church of England, his conversion, if you will, was done for political reasons, i.e, the divorces, and not matters of faith or doctrine..

Read “Six Wives” for an excellent read on the life and times of Henry VIII..


8 posted on 04/06/2009 7:48:56 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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To: wombtotomb

Sorry, but no on that one.


9 posted on 04/06/2009 7:49:15 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: NYer

I always thought that was the case. What’s the big deal.

He made up his own rules about religion, and if you didn’t adhere, well then, you’d lose your head. What a guy.

Did not the old boy die of syphilis? Gee, I wonder how he got that?


10 posted on 04/06/2009 7:49:51 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Do your duty in all things." Robert E. Lee)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Very true...


11 posted on 04/06/2009 7:50:00 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

You beat me to it. Its pretty well known that Henry’s motives for breaking away from Rome were political, not theological.
He would probably have been horrified if he had realised the long-term religious consequences of his actions in his kingdom after he’d gone....


12 posted on 04/06/2009 7:51:02 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: RexBeach
Did not the old boy die of syphilis?

Maybe or maybe not. It could have been necrosis/gangrene of his legs due to possible diabetes, consistent with his morbid obesity.

13 posted on 04/06/2009 7:56:40 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: NYer
Henry VIII was once Catholic? Well, I'm shocked ... shocked I say. /sarc
14 posted on 04/06/2009 7:59:03 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Scholars have long known that, his divorces and political motives aside, Henry privately believed himself to be more Catholic than the Pope

Considering the scoundrels who held the Papacy during his lifetime, he had a point.

15 posted on 04/06/2009 8:06:53 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy ( As for a future life, every man must judge for himself between conflicting vague probabilities. - D)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

“Why is this such an “exciting discovery”? Scholars have long known that, his divorces and political motives aside, Henry privately believed himself to be more Catholic than the Pope.”

He was also angry that Rome was taxing his country 10%. He then told Rome to go pound sand. (Like any good crook, he probably pocketed that cash rather than give it to Rome.)

I suppose we Americans will never learn from any of that.


16 posted on 04/06/2009 8:08:01 AM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
I know he suffered terribly with gout. I also know that despite his divorce, he always considered Kathryn of Aragon, the mother of Mary Queen of Scotts, his true wife.

Henry needed a son — for all his trouble (once again, another helpful Hannah) — he had two daughters, ruined the faith in England and wound up pitting his two children against each other. Thanks, Hank. Can we all say, “Dumba$$.” Oh, yeah, he was a devout and firm believer, right up until the rubber met the road and those beliefs crossed paths with his desires.

There was no honor in his acts, therefore, there was no devout in his beliefs.

17 posted on 04/06/2009 8:08:26 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
Henry needed a son — for all his trouble (once again, another helpful Hannah) — he had two daughters, ruined the faith in England and wound up pitting his two children against each other.

But, young Edward survived him (but not by much), so Henry died thinking he had been successful in the long run, with an male heir ready to take the throne, all the damage he caused notwithstanding.

18 posted on 04/06/2009 8:12:05 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: T Minus Four; 4mer Liberal

ping for watching


19 posted on 04/06/2009 8:13:42 AM PDT by T Minus Four ( Alleluia, my God lives!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

When Henry was young, he was quite an athlete- until he was thrown from a horse. The injury limited his movement. It is thought that this injury ultimately lead to his death.

What if Henry outlived his son Edward?


20 posted on 04/06/2009 8:14:05 AM PDT by bobjam
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