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To: B-Chan
<> Close but not quite. The idea of God means that you are working from the conclusion backward and creating proof to support that conclusion. I am saying that I have seen no proof...yet. And forgive me if I cannot simply take your or anyone's 'word for it.'
28 posted on 04/05/2009 10:07:29 PM PDT by MissTickly
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To: MissTickly

There’s no such thing as proof. Evidence perceived via the senses is fallible; for all you know, the Universe is a figment of your imagination, and you are dreaming all of this.

Nothing can be proven in any objective sense; the best we can do is examine the data conveyed to us by our fallible, subjective senses and decide on the basis of faith alone what relationship (if any) these sensory data have to a universe external to and independent of ourselves (if any).

The only things you can know for sure to exist are those things that you directly experience, rather than things you perceive via the senses.


37 posted on 04/05/2009 10:44:09 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: MissTickly
The odds of the universe being as it is, so delicately balanced as to allow life on Earth to have reached the human condition are one in 10120. I'm sure you see the absurdity of resting your case for denying a designer/creator upon such a long shot as 10120.
90 posted on 04/06/2009 7:55:32 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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