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To: MissTickly

There’s no such thing as proof. Evidence perceived via the senses is fallible; for all you know, the Universe is a figment of your imagination, and you are dreaming all of this.

Nothing can be proven in any objective sense; the best we can do is examine the data conveyed to us by our fallible, subjective senses and decide on the basis of faith alone what relationship (if any) these sensory data have to a universe external to and independent of ourselves (if any).

The only things you can know for sure to exist are those things that you directly experience, rather than things you perceive via the senses.


37 posted on 04/05/2009 10:44:09 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan
There’s no such thing as proof.

Prove it.

39 posted on 04/05/2009 10:52:34 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: B-Chan
There’s no such thing as proof.

Prove it.

40 posted on 04/05/2009 10:52:50 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: B-Chan

Fair enough. I guess it just takes more for me to be convinced than you or someone else...

There’s no such thing as proof. Evidence perceived via the senses is fallible; for all you know, the Universe is a figment of your imagination, and you are dreaming all of this.

Nothing can be proven in any objective sense; the best we can do is examine the data conveyed to us by our fallible, subjective senses and decide on the basis of faith alone what relationship (if any) these sensory data have to a universe external to and independent of ourselves (if any).

The only things you can know for sure to exist are those things that you directly experience, rather than things you perceive via the senses.


50 posted on 04/05/2009 11:01:22 PM PDT by MissTickly
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To: B-Chan
The only things you can know for sure to exist are those things that you directly experience, rather than things you perceive via the senses.

What the heck does this mean? What's the difference between "directly experience" and "perceive via the senses"?

89 posted on 04/06/2009 7:53:15 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: B-Chan

“Evidence perceived via the senses is fallible; for all you know, the Universe is a figment of your imagination, and you are dreaming all of this.

Nothing can be proven in any objective sense; the best we can do is examine the data conveyed to us by our fallible, subjective senses and decide on the basis of faith alone what relationship (if any) these sensory data have to a universe external to and independent of ourselves (if any).

The only things you can know for sure to exist are those things that you directly experience, rather than things you perceive via the senses.”

Of course you cannot possbily know that any of that is true, since you might just be dreaming it all. Sure sounds like pipe-dream.

Why go to the bother saying such things, since there is no such thing as proof, so you cannot possibly know it is true?

And why should anyone else listen to you, since you are so certain you cannot know anything?

Hank


641 posted on 06/12/2009 10:35:34 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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