I’m curious, and with all due respect, as an athiest, do you believe we have inalienable rights? If so, what makes them inalienable?
Without a divine creator God of the universe, we’re all just random chemical reactions and Hitler’s actions were merely an example of natural selection.
Rather than telling you you’re bad, whatever that means, let me share this from Romans 1:
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.
And from Psalm 53:1
The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God,” They are corrupt, and have committed abominable injustice; There is no one who does good.
That “no one” part includes me, and you, and everyone else.
But here’s the good news from Romans 10:
That if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
Peace, A
“do you believe we have inalienable rights? If so, what makes them inalienable?”
Yes, I do believe that we have natural inalienable rights. Why? For me, I love my life AND I love people in my life: my family, friends... When you have love, you realize, you wouldn’t want anything to happen to that love or to those loved ones. For me this is the core of my moral code.
I wouldn’t want anything to happen to my family or my friends, so I wouldn’t hurt anyone else’s family or friends. That’s not a cycle I want to be a part of. Hurting another person physically or psychologically teaches others to do the same.
From what I can see, people that don’t get that kind of love in their life, well, they don’t learn that lesson very easy. And they can’t be taught it and I am skeptical with good reason that they can simply be told that God (a god) loves them and expect that to replace human love. They have to experience it. It’s harder for them, I know, but they must respect this inalienable right. There are consequences for the blatant disregard of human life, because crime is a cancer. Domestic violence is a cancer. Hate is a cancer.
So.. I support causes that may seem wishy washy to some, because I truly believe that unless the unloved get loved, they are facing an obstacle that’s going to be pretty hard to overcome. They don’t learn to respect the pain of others.
Of course this is an oversimplification and I am sure you can see how I apply this in all different kinds of ways. For instance, some love isn’t healthy and doesn’t do a thing to ingrain natural inalienable rights. But my overall logic is much the same as a Christian or Jew or Mormon....I just don’t get it from the Bible, it comes from within.
Is that so dangerous?
“resulting in salvation.”
Yes, I don’t need this. I am not interested in what I get when I die. I am only going to make my energy as positive as possible so when it leaves it’s physical vehicle—my body, it is positive energy. Afterall, enrgy is neither gained nor lost.
Even if my energy goes into a lightbulb, I shall burn brightly and happily.
Actually, Hitler was trying to force selection, not go with natural selection (unless you are saying that Hitler's actions were natural).
But even if it were natural, the societal instinct within man would promote self-preservation by fighting such aberrent, dangerous creatures as Hitler.
We are endowed with our rights by our Creator, whatever that is...perhaps God, perhaps The Universe...but whatever endowed us with them, we have them as humans.