Hank, you are trying to spice and dice because you don’t ‘get it.’
Independent thought in this case is thought that is free from the constraints of the threat of eternal damnation and the often illogical set of rules that religion gives one to live by and free from the promise of eternal salvation and all the selfish things that come from such motivation ‘to act.’
I have a feeling you actually do ‘get it,’ but you are too bull headed to admit it.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
[[Independent thought in this case is thought that is free from the constraints of the threat of eternal damnation]]
How is a warning a ‘threat’? Would it be ‘liberating’ for a child to ignore their parent’s warnign about a hot stove and stick their hand on it anyways? Woudl it be ‘liberating’ for a person to be warned agaisnt investing in a bogus stock, and for that person to buy into it despite the warnings?
Liberating? I hardly htink so
[[illogical set of rules that religion gives]]
Oh please do elaborate- this ought to be rich!
[[ free from the promise of eternal salvation and all the selfish things that come from such motivation ‘to act.’]]
I take it you think it’s ‘gallant’ to reject God’s gracious offer? Is it also goign to be gallant for eternity? Better to reject Your creator than to ‘accept such a selfish offer’ eh? Almost a form of self-denial for the sake of self-righteousness it woudl seem- but better self-righteous, than JUSTIFIED via free offer. Wouldn’t want to appear to be the ‘unliberated selfish’ person now would we? Much better to place our compelte trust in self-pride- so much more ‘liberating’