[[Independent thought in this case is thought that is free from the constraints of the threat of eternal damnation]]
How is a warning a ‘threat’? Would it be ‘liberating’ for a child to ignore their parent’s warnign about a hot stove and stick their hand on it anyways? Woudl it be ‘liberating’ for a person to be warned agaisnt investing in a bogus stock, and for that person to buy into it despite the warnings?
Liberating? I hardly htink so
[[illogical set of rules that religion gives]]
Oh please do elaborate- this ought to be rich!
[[ free from the promise of eternal salvation and all the selfish things that come from such motivation to act.]]
I take it you think it’s ‘gallant’ to reject God’s gracious offer? Is it also goign to be gallant for eternity? Better to reject Your creator than to ‘accept such a selfish offer’ eh? Almost a form of self-denial for the sake of self-righteousness it woudl seem- but better self-righteous, than JUSTIFIED via free offer. Wouldn’t want to appear to be the ‘unliberated selfish’ person now would we? Much better to place our compelte trust in self-pride- so much more ‘liberating’
The song in the flames “I did it MY way” - but better to burn than to be beholden to someone else- that’s my motto- Better to do things ourself, than to admit we need help- better to bleed than to admit we can’t save oruselves- better to pretend somethign doesn’t exist than to listen to that still small voice- don’t want to be seen as weak and needy- better for others to be impressed with our sense of selfrighteousness- better to get temporary praise from others than to face eternity
Yes, liberating- how liberating it is to be held in esteme temporarily by others who also shut out that stil lsmall voice- that icky religion- so stifling and old fashioned! “Intellectuals don’t beleive in such htings’ (or so we’re led to beleive based on the vioces of the loudest smallest groups) Must keep yelling to drown out that still small voice- liberation! Liberation! Religious peopel are ignorant and afraid! Stuck i nthe dark ages! Bound by ‘silly rules’! Morlaity is subjective! (Contrary to the evidence )
Your argument is entirely dependent on the existence of hell and therefore not valid.
It is your belief that hell is as real as a hot stove. I am inclined to disagree with that opinion.
—How is a warning a threat? Would it be liberating for a child to ignore their parents warning about a hot stove..—
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—[[illogical set of rules that religion gives]]
Oh please do elaborate- this ought to be rich!—
The idea of ‘jihad’ is a fine example.
The rest of your response kinda proved my point, thanks.