You thunk I ate someones lunch!
Posted on 03/23/2009 10:27:54 AM PDT by fproy2222
I am tired of how some anti-Mormons here at FR, and other places, mis-use the history and teachings of my Church.
This was posted:::::::::
“”””” President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.167); “””””
Here is the part of the article not posted for you and as you read it, you will find that it does not say the things about my church that is implued by leaving out large parts of the text.
Please note, the address is to us, the LDS people, from one of the church leaders at the time, telling us that we are not doing what we should and that we must do better.
In no way is President Taylor saying what the original post says he is saying..
Notice how the “…” jump the first part of the post into another sentence and into another thought.
The information is taken out of context and turned into an untruth.
I have put “{{}}” around the parts posted to make it easer to see the misuse of this document.
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We have first to learn submission to the will of God ourselves, through various trials, persecutions, and the development of our weaknesses and imperfections, and thereby learn to appreciate the goodness and blessings that flow from him. We must see that we ourselves first learn obedience, and then teach others. But how can we teach others a lesson which we have not learned ourselves?
There is not nation now that acknowledges that hand of God; there is not a king, potentate, nor ruler that acknowledges his jurisdiction. We talk about {{ Christianity }}, but it {{ is a perfect pack of nonsense }}. Men talk about civilization; but I do not want to say much about that, for I have seen enough of it. Myself and hundreds of the Elders around me have seen its pomp, parade, and glory; and what is it? It is a sounding brass and a tinkling symbol; it is as corrupt as hell; {{ and the Devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work that the Christianity of the nineteenth century. }}
(Journal of Discourses, 26 vols. [London: Latter-day Saints' Book Depot, 1854-1886], 6: 167.)
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greyfoxx39 you never did believe so be it!
Moreover he refused the tabernacle of Joseph, and chose not the tribe of Ephraim: Psalm 78;68
Some folks should be more concerned with their own faulty mindset and less concerned with what they imagine someone else's mindset was in years past.
I suggest you stop trying to read my mind, either in the present or the past.
That is not mind reading when you post over and over you do not believe it!
It is an unfortunate fact that some folks thin skin is pricked by some of my posts, but they have the choice of not reading them.
We are talking about what you are posting on the LDS thread and your replies to my post you have stated you do not believe...
Do you want to change that now??:)
We are talking about what you are posting on the LDS thread and your replies to my post you have stated you do not believe...
Do you want to change that now??:)
We are talking about what you are posting on the LDS thread and your replies to my post you have stated you do not believe...
Do you want to change that now??:)
greyfoxx39 you never did believe so be it!
I reported you for abuse. You shouldn’t be mindreading and reporting what greyfoxx believed.
Obviously grey WAS a member of your cult for many years and one would LIKELY assume that she believed in it- you can’t possibly know what she believed, or that she DIDN’T believe.
Why the mod lets you get away with this nonsense is beyond my comprehension!
Ping to post 372. I mentioned you and forgot the courtesy ping. Sorry.
If someone reports to me day after day they do not believe what “ever” I post positive on this “forum” about LDS that is not mindreading.
We have not said you never believed in the Church when you were a Presbyterian. If we did, THAT would be mindreading!
I am talking about the daily on slot of of what EVER I post positive on the LDS none of you have never accepted!
And that is the context I am using this in!
It simply surprises me, that’s all.
I’m not going to get in a flame war with you so you can have the thread shut down, if that’s what you think.
You foxy GENTILE, you!
You KNOW that FACTS will NEVER change a TBM’s mind.
‘Specially one that has had a STRONG experience that the Holy Spirit gets credit for!
The BEST you can hope for is that a lurker or two will see the DATA and not get trapped into a double-bind logic failure.
We Mormon’s will only be convinced by a REVELATION from GOD.
So you and yer buds had best PRAY for one!
—MormonDude(Jes tryin’ to help.)
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