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To: Iscool; raynearhood; Lee N. Field
The passage says 144,000 of all the tribes of the children of Israel...Therefore, it is 'tribes of the children of Israel'...

What about the tribe of Dan? And why is Manasseh mentioned twice and Ephraim not mentioned at all?

Simplistic assertions such as yours are one reason why futurists don’t get the book of Revelation. Ignoring the symbols drawn largely from the old covenant prophets is the other. Having a Israel-centric rather than Christocentric view of the Bible and the world also makes things difficult for you.

310 posted on 03/05/2009 10:22:02 AM PST by topcat54
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To: topcat54
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. . .

so, the game REPLACEMENTARIANS wish to play is . . .

JUST BECAUSE REPLACEMENTARIANS CAN'T READ SIMPLE TEXT AND UNDERSTAND CLEAR MEANINGS,

DISPIES ARE REQUIRED TO READ THE MIND OF GOD ON ALL QUESTIONS?

ROTFLOL.

THAT'S TOOOOOOO RICH.

GTTM!


321 posted on 03/05/2009 11:15:49 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54
What about the tribe of Dan? And why is Manasseh mentioned twice and Ephraim not mentioned at all?

The Mormons claim to come from Ephraim, which is kinda odd...

Ephraims name is blotted out under heaven in the book of Hosea...

Hos 4:17 Ephraim is joined to idols: let him alone.

Ephraim was replaced by Joseph...

Amo 8:14 They that swear by the sin of Samaria, and say, Thy god, O Dan, liveth; and, The manner of Beer-sheba liveth; even they shall fall, and never rise up again.

Jacob had an illegitimate son in Dan...And of course, Dan was the first born...But the first born from God was Joseph...

Gen 49:16 Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel.

So Jacob says Dan shall judge as one of the tribes of Israel, NOT actually being a tribe of Israel...

Gen 49:17 Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.

Dan was not a good guy...

Gen 49:22 Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:

Gen 49:24 But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel:)

Joseph replaces Ephraim and Levi replaces Dan who was wholly given over to Baal worship...

Rev 7:5 Of the tribe of Judah were sealed twelve thousand.
Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand. Rev 7:6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand.
Of the tribe of Naphtali were sealed twelve thousand.
Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
Rev 7:7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand.
Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand.
Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
Rev 7:8 Of the tribe of Zebulun were sealed twelve thousand.
Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

I see Manasses only once...

But why worry about it...Just believe it...You going to conted with the Holy Spirit on the issue???

326 posted on 03/05/2009 11:40:16 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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