[topcat54]

Humility and grace are the characteristics of truth. And for the record, I am neither Supercesionist or Dispensationalist. I am a “whole Bible” follower of Messiah.”

He said with all humility. :-)

I’m not sure that a “whole Bible” follower of Messiah” is. Do you know any Christian who would deny being a “whole Bible” follower of Messiah”? Or is that code for something specific?

[safisoft]

I’m not sure that a “whole Bible” follower of Messiah” is. Do you know any Christian who would deny being a “whole Bible” follower of Messiah”? Or is that code for something specific?

We don't cut the Bible into parts:

--As the Supercessionist does: Before: Israel; Now: the REAL Israel the "Church"

--As the Dispensationalist does: Before: Israel; Now: the "Church"; in the Future: Israel

We don't think Abraham, Moses, and David were Christians (or proto-Christians).

We know the "saving" faith of those listed in Hebrews 11 is identical to the "saving" faith that those who follow the Messiah of Israel have today.

We know that Messiah did not abolish any part of Scripture, and we don't think "fullfilled" (Matthew 5:17-18) means "done away with" or "rendered moot."

Most of all, we know that disciple is to imitate his Teacher - and when perfectly trained will be like Him. Which means, if He is a humble, merciful, and observant Jew - (even if we are Gentile) we should strive to be and live like Him... all at the expense of humanly contrived creeds, statements of "I believe" etc.