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[Tennessee Nana]

And I’m thrilled that you are going to be baptised as a REAL Christian...

((((HUGS))))

:)

[reaganaut]

It’s about BOOKS; you know.

Do you REALLY think a LIVING Prophet® of The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints would EVER get a revelation (wink-wink) to actually canonize a Book that a BREAKAWAY (in their terms) group of Mormons-lite owns the COPYRIGHT thereof??

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I hadn’t thought about the copyright angle. The RLDS owned the copyright to the JST and so the LDS would prolly have to pay them royalties if they used it.

[ejonesie22]

Actually you are getting baptized for the first time period.

As a Mormon, the act simply made you just like the rest in the LDS, ALL WET...

Welcome to the light of the true Church, the true Body of Christ...

[reaganaut]

probably postum. :)

[reaganaut]

You are correct. I have to keep myslef from saying “re-baptized” since the LDS this was not a real baptism.

Its funny, I have been a Christian for 16 years but the Lord really started convicting me to get baptized last fall.

[ejonesie22]

The Spirit moves us in mysterious ways, but the important is what the spirit knows about us in our hearts...

[reaganaut]

Kinda. In my experience (and I did it too) The LDS will use the past prophets as scripture when i suits their purposes.

However, if it is embarrassing or makes the LDS church look bad, then the pat answer is “well, he was speaking as a man” or “only the current prophet speaks for today”.

But for the rank and file, when conversing amongst themselves, again in my experience, all prophets are created equal.

[Elsie]

 

See how good I was at Pitmans Shorthand in high school ????

 

 The "Caractors" are the only tangible evidence in existence related to Smith's story. No gold plates, no brass plates, no peep stones, no Urim and Thummim... only these "Caractors," not a single one of which is in the purported languages.

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Smith's translation of the Caractors. According to Martin Harris (Joseph Smith - History, 1:64), "I went to the city of New York, and presented the characters which had been translated, with the translation thereof, to Professor Charles Anthon, a gentleman celebrated for his literary attainments. Professor Anthon stated that the translation was correct, more so than any he had before seen translated from the Egyptian. I then showed him those which were not yet translated,* and he said they were Egyptian, Chaldaic, Assyriac, and Arabic; and he said they were true characters."

Speak right up now in all truthfulness. Isn't it revealing how Smith started out making a stab at creating believable "caractors" but quckly gave up and produced nothing but squiggles, ending up wih a series of nothing more than crude little scribbles? Yet Professor Anthon supposedly translated them!

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*Harris must have had two or three pieces of paper with him—one with characters and a translation of them (on the same paper or a separate one) and one with untranslated characters—quite likely the "Caractors." Some Mormon "scholars" have gone out on a limb, sawed it off, and knocked themselves out trying to translate from these true Egyptian, Chaldaic, Assyriac, and Arabic characters a segment that would correspond with a verse from 1 Nephi.

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Modern-day experts in Egyptian, Chaldaic, Assyriac, and Arabic. In 1829, any knowledge of these languages possessed by U.S. scholars would have been rudimentary at best. Expertise in them has vastly improved since then. So go ahead, do it. Get any modern expert in these languages to identify which of these "Caractors" are Egyptian, Chaldaic, Assyriac and Arabic. Better still, accept the claim of Mormon apologists that Anthon did indeed so testify and that his appraisal of the Caractors was correct. (Op. cit, pp. 73-75)

Save your money! Samples of Assyriac/Aramaic and Arabic writing:

What say you? Which of Smith's "Caractors" resemble the Assyriac and Arabic ones? No need to pay experts for their analysis. A child could accurately check this out. These writing systems have remained constant for well over 3000 years.

[colorcountry]

I am getting baptized again next month, this time as a Christian, not as a Mormon.

Congratulations on taking the step to publicly align yourself with Christ!

[count-your-change]

Double Speak, waltz around the truth and never touche it.

[Elsie]

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Well... they USED to be there!

[ejonesie22]

I think that is a third year class as BYU...

[count-your-change]

There are some things only a good education can provide!

[Godzilla]

I wasn’t a Gentile then. I was a member. But the recognition that I was being lied to about things like that is one thing that made me take a closer look at the LDS church, which is what led me out. I became a Christian shortly after leaving.

Your story is like so many other I've read here and on other blogs/sites. I am thankful that unlike so many other exmormons who totally rejected God in any way shape or form, you found out Savior.

[ejonesie22]

It takes an effort to train a good sales force.

Now if they would only put the effort into the product...

[reaganaut]

I am getting baptized again next month, this time as a Christian, not as a Mormon.

Congratulations on taking the step to publicly align yourself with Christ!

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Thanks. I have been public about my faith since I was saved. But the Lord convicted me that this was a matter of obedience. I know baptism doesn’t save, Christ does. However, I was convicted that I was being disobedient in putting baptism off for so long.

[reaganaut]

Its called “Missonary Preparation Class”. I took it 2nd year.

[ejonesie22]

Well that in a nutshell is why we fight so hard against the LDS. It is so out there that once an individual finally figured everything out, it may well sour them on any other faith. That is the point of my “theft of Christ” concept, they have stolen Christ and corrupted him, so to those whose only experience maybe the LDS it would become a case of guilt by association for the True Body of Christ.

Prevention is the key...

[ejonesie22]

Sales class...

[count-your-change]

The foundation in post #268 is gonna take care of that, a little polish, wax, buff and the iron pyrite will look just as gold as good, maybe more so.