“You have to come to the text with that as a presupposition, to get that out of it.”
Just read Romans 9, 10 & 11.
It requires no presuppositions to see two distinct groups there - it just requires the ability to read.
You're not suggesting our friend is illiterate, are you?
Just read Romans 9, 10 & 11.
Actually this supports my contention, that the dispensational axiom drives the interpretation.
You see 2 peoples. I see one olive tree, one root, from which Israel-according-to-the-flesh is cut off, and to which we are grafted in.
They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises.
(Paul didn't mention the land. Curious, that.)
"Jewish DNA" will be of no value to them. Outside of Christ, outside of his church, they are lost. Anyone who gives them hope outside of that, will have to give account.5 To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
6 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel,
7 and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but “Through Isaac shall your offspring be named.”
8 This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring.
For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility
15 by abolishing the law of commandments and ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace,
16 and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility.
17 And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near.
18 For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father.
19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God,