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To: DallasMike

Or should I have said ill-conceived. Look at how much mental gymnastics you must do in order for the Bible to conform to your viewpoint. It staggers the imagination and leads me to believe that you are not at all sincere in your postings and belief in the God of the Bible.

Good Day, Sir!


156 posted on 02/17/2009 10:05:45 AM PST by BrandtMichaels
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To: BrandtMichaels

Or should I have said ill-conceived. Look at how much mental gymnastics you must do in order for the Bible to conform to your viewpoint. It staggers the imagination and leads me to believe that you are not at all sincere in your postings and belief in the God of the Bible.

Good Day, Sir!

This is the only "assumption" I make:

  1. Use a meaning of the word yom that is entirely consistent with the word as used elsewhere in the Bible.

Here is just a teeny-tiny partial list of the assumptions that you have to make:

  1. Explain how light from galaxies billions of light years away reached the earth in 6,000 years.
  2. Explain how radiometric data shows the earth to be approximately 4.5 billion years old.
  3. Explain the red shift in an expanding universe
  4. If all sedimentary deposits were all laid down in the flood, why do primitive species appear at the bottom of sedimentary layers while more advanced species appear at the top? If these layers were laid down at once during the flood, we would expect to find mammoth bones in the same layers as ammonites. We don't.
  5. Explain deuterium abundance in the universe
  6. Explain the multiple reversals of the earth's magnetic pole as preserved in lava layers
  7. Explain the depth of carbonite deposits (the brilliant Dr. Walt is way out of his league)
  8. Explain Supernova 1987A
  9. Explain ice cores in Greenland showing 150,000 annual layers and ice cores in Antarctica showing more than 400,000 layers
  10. Explain element abundance in the universe given the lifetime of stars which can be determined from their spectrum

Like I said, you have to go through a lot more mental gymnastics than I do.

Tell me again the extent of your science education and career?

Good day, Sir! And a big ol' salute!


160 posted on 02/17/2009 1:30:57 PM PST by DallasMike
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To: BrandtMichaels

It’s best to fight them on evolution.

There are answers to these things, but their case is VERY weak for evolution. It’s best to stick to that. They’ll try & make it an age of the earth argument.

But for example:

(1) “Explain how light from galaxies billions of light years away reached the earth in 6,000 years.”

(3) “Explain the red shift in an expanding universe”

this is all very disingenuous. (3) is a loaded question. the redshift is claimed to SHOW an expanding universe, and also the huge distance. What they don’t say is that there are quasars in nearby galaxies that have redshifts that should place them at the edge of the universe. so clearly they don’t really have a clue what causes redshift. It is probably largely caused by the gravtitational redshift of dark matter.

(4) “Explain how radiometric data shows the earth to be approximately 4.5 billion years old.”

the assumptions in radiometric dating are ridiculous. modern volcano ejections are routinely dated at millions of years since eruption.

(5) “If all sedimentary deposits were all laid down in the flood, why do primitive species appear at the bottom of sedimentary layers while more advanced species appear at the top? If these layers were laid down at once during the flood, we would expect to find mammoth bones in the same layers as ammonites. We don’t.”

again, loaded. why are birds on top? because they evolved last? NO!!! because they are one of the last things to DIE!! They can, um, fly. Small, slow, stupid animals are at the bottom, eg molluscs.

(7) “Explain the multiple reversals of the earth’s magnetic pole as preserved in lava layers”

Nonsense. They know NOTHING about those things. Everything they have is from statistical models. There were never any reversals. It would take a long time to explain that whole thing. The reducing magnetic field is actually very good evidence for a young earth. it started high and is reducing.

(8) “Explain ice cores in Greenland showing 150,000 annual layers and ice cores in Antarctica showing more than 400,000 layers”

very very easy. each layer represents ONE SNOWFALL. In Canada people get snow on the top of their car that shows dozens of layers in one day. A layer is not a year. Snow ain’t trees.

With the other 4 it’s not clear what his problem is.


164 posted on 02/17/2009 1:57:27 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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