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To: NYer
This seems to me a rather strange discussion. I think it is commonly accepted that most of the Apostles were likely married, that thirty nine popes were married, that many good priests historically and currently have been and are married, etc. etc.
Many of these comments seem to come from those who want to “control” the lives of others. who want to “decide for them - the priests - what is right and what is wrong”

Why not ask what would be good for the people of God at a time when there is such a shortage of priests, why not even ask the priests themselves, who have served the church what they think would be best - maybe there is a message in the 40,000 priests who have married and most of whom would still be willing to serve the church. But then maybe the bishops would lose some control - wives being what they are.

Seem to me that those who are not priests ought to stop telling priests how they are to live. They are not children.

40 posted on 12/11/2008 1:54:16 PM PST by VidMihi ("In fide, unitas; in dubiis, libertas; in omnibus, caritas.")
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To: VidMihi
I think it is commonly accepted that most of the Apostles were likely married, that thirty nine popes were married, that many good priests historically and currently have been and are married, etc. etc.

Accepted by whom? Please name the 39 married popes and provide supporting references. Ultimately, what does it matter since scripture tells us that

Celibacy is an eschatological sign to the Church, a living-out in the present of the universal celibacy of heaven: "For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven" (Matt. 22:30).

46 posted on 12/11/2008 4:35:32 PM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: VidMihi

You wrote:

“Seem to me that those who are not priests ought to stop telling priests how they are to live. They are not children.”

Last time I checked, every bishop in the world was a priest. So, in regard to “telling priests how they are to live” isn’t other priests (the bishops) who are doing that?


52 posted on 12/12/2008 3:35:24 AM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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