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Science Question: Can A Black Hole Created By The Large Hadron Collider Fulfill Bible Prophecy?
Bible, Scientific American Magazine ; and other sources ^ | September 21, 2008 | Yosemitest

Posted on 09/21/2008 1:35:21 AM PDT by Yosemitest

Can A Black Hole
Created By The Large Hadron Collider
Fulfill Bible Prophecy?



TOPICS: Current Events; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: blackhole; collider; prophecy
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What do y'all think?

Is it possible?

And have you heard of the "Big Bounce Theory"?

1 posted on 09/21/2008 1:35:22 AM PDT by Yosemitest
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To: Yosemitest
Sorry ... Here's one more reference,
2 posted on 09/21/2008 1:38:18 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: Yosemitest

I think you need to chill.


3 posted on 09/21/2008 1:39:10 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Yosemitest

Well not for a few months anyway....maybe with the money crisis, it might be shut off for quite a while...

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/world/stories/DN-collider_21int.ART.State.Edition1.26c0e50.html


4 posted on 09/21/2008 1:39:52 AM PDT by tuckrdout (~ 'Those who hammer their guns into plows, will plow for those who don't.' ~)
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To: Yosemitest
First, making a supermassive object is the opposite of what this machine does. Second, if one we're simply to encounter a blackhole, or one were suddenly placed at the center of Earth, having the mass of the Earth, it would be about the 100 meters in diameter. Let's just say, for the sake of discussion that a blackhole, having mass sufficient to prevent all but x-rays and lie like of high-energy Gamma Rays, GCR's, etc., were suddenly to appear in the center of Earth. If it were the mass of the Earth, Gravity would double. If it were massive enough to start swallowing Earth, and were here at the surface were below the Event Horizon, the collapse would be at superluminal speeds, relativistic speeds. If you were watching from Mars, it would all be over in a flash. Poof!

But here on Earth, as we accelerated toward close to the speed of light, space-time would warp and it would take an eternity to finally reach the point where the molecules and atom and sub-atomic particles would be torn to shreds and spread like a wave of energy over the surface of the object, along with the rest of Earth.

No, what you're looking for in the prophesy sounds more like a latter day Imbrium-Class impact, "something like a mountain fell into the sea," etc. "Wormwood."

That sound very much like a garden variety asteroid, perhaps stirred out of equilibrium by a near encounter of the solar system with a blackhole, like the event some think happened perhaps 3.8 billion years ago when gas giants shuffled around and may have stirred up and recorded as a spike in a 4.527 billion year gradual fall off of asteroid impacts recorded on the Moon, and perhaps in the Pacific Basin, and elsewhere, including Mars.

Perhaps you should keep a watch on the listings of NEOs, mostly "Apollo-Class" stoney asteroids that regularly are zipping near Earth, at the bottom of http://www.spaceweather.com.

While there, examine our strangely quiet spot-free Sun, not six month past the latest "conservative" estimates of what all but a handful of scientists said would be the sharp up-tick in "Cycle 24."

The Universe God made is far more hazardous a place to sail through than anything man can cook up, yet.

5 posted on 09/21/2008 2:04:18 AM PDT by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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My question to you would be, if the answer is yes, do you think we should try to stop the fulfillment of Bible prophecy? If so, what is the Bible evidence that this interference is what God would want us to do?

I think about Hezekiah. in the 18 to 20th chapters, God tells us that Hezekiah laid his concerns over the enemy of Israel in front of the Lord, and asked God to save the country from the King of Assyria. God said, “Because you have prayed to Me against the king of Assyria, I have heard”....and God destroyed the Assyrian king and saved Israel from invasion. Then God told Hezekiah that he was going to die. Since it hadn't happened yet, this is a prophecy, is it not? Hezekiah again prayed and asked that he not die. God said that because he had prayed and asked, Hezekiah indeed would not die, but live! And he did.

Next Babylonians came to tour the country, and the palace. Isaiah told him that God had said that the Babylonians would take over Israel, and tear down all the buildings and haul away the people as eunuch's and slaves. Hezekiah said, “Oh, well at least in my lifetime this won't happen, so, okay!”....He did not pray that God save Israel, but just accepted it. And it certainly did happen just as God said it would.

God told Abraham about the destruction of Sodom. Abraham asked him to please not destroy the city if there were but 10 godly people. Because Abraham was his friend, God saved Abraham's adopted son, Lot, which is really what Abraham was concerned with.

We need to be God's friend. That is really all He wants!

Lesson, I think, is that we must pray to the Lord, and ask him not to allow these things to come to pass. We must pray and ask God to save our nation from Marxism, from Obama and immoral leaders. We must ask for deliverance from our enemies. We must ask the Lord, or these things will surely happen. Will we say, “well at least in my lifetime, they won't...whew!?”

6 posted on 09/21/2008 2:07:00 AM PDT by tuckrdout (~ 'Those who hammer their guns into plows, will plow for those who don't.' ~)
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Our Lord in Heaven will be the One and Only to decide what the final day and hour will be. He and only He will be the One who will bring about the Prophecy and thus the end of this world as we know it. It will not be done by man. It will be done by His Will.


7 posted on 09/21/2008 2:25:49 AM PDT by Evil Slayer (Sarah Palin reminds me of the story about David and Goliath)
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To: Yosemitest

Stop worrying about pseudoscience and worry more about demokkkrats. There is no such thing as a black hole.


8 posted on 09/21/2008 3:00:05 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946

Crystal Mangum comes to mind.


9 posted on 09/21/2008 4:22:37 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Yosemitest

Sure it could. But could it brown food?


10 posted on 09/21/2008 4:23:54 AM PDT by Silly (PalinLove.com)
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It’s already happened ... just take a look at the Financial Fiasco Bail Out Black Hole.


11 posted on 09/21/2008 4:27:41 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Yosemitest

That’s a theological, not a scientific question, I believe. (Everyone’s gotta believe something. I believe I’ll have another drink.)


12 posted on 09/21/2008 4:30:33 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans.)
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They will not be creating a “black hole”. They will be throwing particles at other particles with a lot of energy, and they will look to see what happens. Undoubtedly there will be a “new” particle that they will announce to the world. They will not answer any questions about the Universe, creation, or the “big bang”.


13 posted on 09/21/2008 4:54:27 AM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (Fight liberal lies with knowledge. Read conservative books and articles.)
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Uh... even in the way off case of generating a singularity (as probable as spontaneously turning lead to gold on a microwave oven) it wouldn’t stop at “a third”. No sir.


14 posted on 09/21/2008 4:59:32 AM PDT by Moose Burger
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Oh, MAN, is this great or what???

I’ve just taken all the lead wrappers off the wine bottles and got ‘em in the ol microwave now. Just another 30 minutes and Nigerian bank account, here I come!


15 posted on 09/21/2008 5:56:20 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Yosemitest
Is it possible?

No!

16 posted on 09/21/2008 6:29:13 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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Tiny black holes are unstable. If one was created, it would evaporate immediately.


17 posted on 09/21/2008 6:35:03 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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I don’t think those mushrooms you found in the park are good to eat.


18 posted on 09/21/2008 6:43:21 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Tiny black holes are unstable. If one was created, it would evaporate immediately.

Well, this is the current theory at least. Has anyone ever seen it happen?

What happens if the theory is wrong?

19 posted on 09/21/2008 6:47:35 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: Prospero
Let's just say, for the sake of discussion that a blackhole, having mass sufficient to prevent all but x-rays and lie like of high-energy Gamma Rays, GCR's, etc., were suddenly to appear in the center of Earth. If it were the mass of the Earth, Gravity would double.

This is not even close to the scenario which is worrisome.

The "bad" scenario is that somehow a stable black hole is formed. Trapped by earth's gravity, it moves back & forth with in the earth, eating it from within. The mass of the earth-black hole combination does not increase at all, as the black hole becomes more massive, the earth becomes less massive. Gravity does not double.

20 posted on 09/21/2008 6:52:48 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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