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To: ejonesie22
So professor, explain HaplogroupX to us then. That is solid DNA evidence of a people, the Hopewell Indians, who covered North America from present-day New York in the East to the Great Plains in the West, the Upper Great Lakes region in the North, down to the panhandle of Florida in the South. This haplogroup is found in Europe, not Asia. The distinct subset of this particular founding haplogroup (meaning that it originated on the North American continent around 600 B.C.) can only be found in one other place in the world- the region encompassing present day Israel. Might I add, the archealogical evidence, such as the Hopewell temples, which have been found and surveyed by the Army Corps of Engineers, are constructed after the manner of the ancient tabernacle and the pattern of Solomon's temple, complete with the outer courtyards. These temples are described in the Book of Mormon and are exactly where the Prophet Joseph Smith said they would be.

Moreover, if you know anything about the people in the Book of Mormon, the descendants of those inhabitants are referred to as the Lamanites. In the Doctrine and Covenants, Joseph Smith called several bretheren to take the Gospel to the Lamanites, as had been promised them in the scriptures. Every tribe he sent missionaries to is a member of HaplogroupX. That is not coincidence. You might also take note, based on your previous assumptions as to where the Church or the Prophet thought the Lamanites lived, that he never sent anyone to preach to the "Lamanites in Central America" He does not even mention Central and South America. For years anti Mormons have propped up academics who are also members of the Church and their belief that Central America was the setting for the Book of Mormon. The only fruit of their quest to make it so has been to divorce themselves from the Prophet Joseph.

He never said anything about Central America, which has been more of Church culture, since no Prophet of the Restoration has said that is where it was. In fact, as late as 2 years ago, the late Gordon B. Hinckley (Prophet of the Lord's Church) said the evidence had not come forth yet. It was in a discussion with a German reporter who thought to score some points when, at that time, DNA evidence showed no link between the indigenous lines of Central and South America with the Near East. All of the Church critics were quick to seize on this as a "nail in the coffin" to Mormonism. Little did they know that just two years later a confirming witness would come forth, not just showing a "European" DNA haplogroup- in which researchers would include the Near East, but strikingly confirming its link to Israel specifically, which is where the Book of Mormon says they came from.

I will continue when you have done more research. I won't spoon feed you the rest. Let me know if you have any questions on what you find.

164 posted on 08/17/2008 4:23:54 PM PDT by DanielLongo
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To: DanielLongo
Wow...

Still insist on claiming a whole other culture as your own.
We have discussed that before.
Tell you what, since the burden of proof is on you not me, get me any information from a NON LDS source that backs this up.

You seem to have all this at hand, so it should be easy.

Wait, I am feeling a bit giving so here:

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1377656&blobtype=pdf

http://www.humpath.com/Haplogroup-X

And just a little tid bit, I can read The Lord of the Rings with great confidence and authority, still doesn’t mean there were Hobbits. Trying to sound erudite whilst promoting a mixed bag of loose “science” doesn't make you more correct, just more annoying.

170 posted on 08/17/2008 4:46:41 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Bigoted Neanderthal Evangelicals support Eric Cantor for VP. Shalom.)
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To: DanielLongo
This haplogroup is found in Europe, not Asia.

I thought you were NOT an academic?

211 posted on 08/18/2008 4:55:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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