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http://lifeongoldplates.blogspot.com/2008/08/bushmans-introduction-to-joseph-smith.html ^ | August 14, 2008 | Richard Bushman

[ejonesie22]

Thye always leave this little bit off...

John 1.14. "And the Word was made flesh

[Reno232]

BTW, your definition of how we're “one” w/ the Lord, could also work for how the Godhead are 3 different & distinct persons.

[ejonesie22]

Start in Genesis and work forward.

I am not being trite, but it has to be take as a whole by those who try and parse it.

It would be helpful if you would answer my simple questions, the ones you have so far managed to avoid.

[Elsie]

That why I use the term ;-)

Come on, World!

Bring out yer best beach volley ball teams and watch us spike them silly!

[ejonesie22]

Before I bite further, answer my basic questions, I'll even leave it at the first two, you can skip the heavenly hosts one.

Fair is fair.

Is there more than one God? yes or no

Is Jesus a Deity? yes or no

[Elsie]

MORE condemnation of Christianity by mormon leaders:

Surely NOT!

We just love you mis-guided folks and want to HELP you!

--MormonDude(Why are we spurned so?)

[ejonesie22]

[Elsie]

We have been over this before. So here is your question (again):

Indeed we have!

WHY did the leaders of the Mormon Organization FAIL to follow both the bible and their OWN Scripture??

[Elsie]

If you don't understand what this publication is saying, let me educate you in the most non-"erudite" manner I can.

Ah...

You ARE an acamademian then!

[Elsie]

Leave it to an Evangelical to take a whole page of philosophical wandering to explain one verse of the Bible.

FAIR and FARMS are now EVANGELICALS?

[Elsie]

The scriptures are plain and precious.

Unless you want to bed a bunch of babes!

[ejonesie22]

Stop it, you are making coke come out of my nose...

[MHGinTN]

[Stepping out of the sandbox ...] "Was He stating He was w/ Himself?" Yes, that is exactly what the Disciple John was stating! That is precisely what the rendering of 'Hear Oh Israel' is aimed to do.

"Doesn’t that sound just a little silly?" Absolutely not. I've offered the Physics explanation of why that is actually profound, but Mormon Apologists don't like that explanation.

"Why not just say, in the beginning was the Word & the Word was God?" Actually, that IS what John says! 'The Word WAS GOD'

"Why confuse it w/ saying & the Word was WITH God?" The Greek reads directly a bit different, and the English translators included the with because the Greek makes withness emphatic as proof of always being,a s in 'I AM'.

"The Lord wants us to understand, not make it so complicated that we have to guess." I'm sorry to say that the Mormon/LDS approach to the subject is to try to obfuscate that which is stated plainly. We have witnessed this effort for more than a year now at FR. How else can your religion establish their specious assertion that Mormonism is 'restored Chrsitianity, than to obfuscate and manufacture confusion by which the apologetics can insert the heresies of Mormonism/Smithism?

Please, if you're going to keep this effort up, try not to play used car salesman misdirection games, trying to make us dance with strawmen carrying LDS founding documents, which when quoted back on these threads by we opposition are then ignored.

Have a nice day. ... See, no sand!

[Elsie]

Is your attempt to divert to another question evidence that you have no retort to the questions & points made in my posts, as well as CUH’s?

I think you may have misaddressed this.

Looks like something for DL to answer.

[MHGinTN]

‘acamademian’ ... is that like a nutty professor?

[ejonesie22]

No, the nutty professors work as scientifically sound, just weird...

[Elsie]

Thanks Elsie! Those verses are awesome.

Praise GOD!

(and the folks who literally gave their lives to bring them to us!)

[Elsie]

Your only oversight is failing to realize that Presbyterianism was a dead tree in 1820 whose death is simply more evident with every passing year.

Prove it.

[MHGinTN]

Can you find the passage [HINT: Old Testament, then in Hebrews] where David is said to be with Abraham, as in a descendant to come from Abraham’s loins? ... Spoon feeding you apologists is so tedious.

[Elsie]

We need to talk about polygamy—you know that practice of God’s prophets, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Nah - LDS of SLC members need to say WHY their founder and leaders FAILED to follow Scripture: the Bible as well as their own.