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To: vladimir998

So now you presume to know my heart and what I’m thinking? I tell you there is only One God, and it’s not you.

“Hell will be filled with multitudes”.

Does that please you?

Where in John 3:16 does it say we must be baptized?

Are you trying to diminish the power of this verse?

Most of the disciples were Jews. In their ministry they were converted Jews, but still Jews. Even though they followed Christ, they still observed Jewish customs and laws.

I’m curious, do you believe that the Jews are God’s Chosen People?

But it’s just a feeling? I don’t think so. Knowing that some people are crass and shallow and egotisical, that’s a feeling. I believe with my whole being that Christ saved me, and how do I know? The Word of God tells me. You might try reading it instead of what someone else (Pope) tells you it says.

Now I have to put myself in another timeout...thank you very much.


354 posted on 08/14/2008 4:40:31 PM PDT by Not just another dumb blonde
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To: Not just another dumb blonde

You wrote:

“So now you presume to know my heart and what I’m thinking?”

Nope. You’re writing is clear enough.

“I tell you there is only One God, and it’s not you.”

Thanks for the update, but that was always known.

“Does that please you?”

No. Does it please you?

“Where in John 3:16 does it say we must be baptized?”

It doesn’t. But go to John 3:3 and 3:5. And don’t forget the greater context of the chapter: 3:22-24; chapter 4:1-3. Baptism, baptism, baptism. And after that? The woman at the...wait for it, wait for it...the WELL.

“Are you trying to diminish the power of this verse?”

Not at all. I’m showing you its real power.

“Most of the disciples were Jews.”

All actually.

“In their ministry they were converted Jews, but still Jews.”

A converted Jew is no longer a Jew in the sense that the pre-converted Jew did not recognize who Jesus was. If a Jew converted, what pray tell, did he convert TO? Isn’t Christianity that he converted TO? And what do we call people who follow Christ? Acts 11 says “Christians”. If it’s good enough for the Bible, why is it such a problem for you?

“Even though they followed Christ, they still observed Jewish customs and laws.”

True enough, but much of that was not part of God’s plan as shown with the conversion of Cornelius and Peter’s vision in Acts.

“I’m curious, do you believe that the Jews are God’s Chosen People?”

In a sense, yes. But I believe what the Bible said: the Bride of Christ is THE CHURCH, not a nation of Jews. I also do not think that being Jewish is better than being a Christian. Christ came to reveal Himself to all mankind. For someone to not discover that in their lifetime is a great loss whether they are Jewish or something else.

“But it’s just a feeling? I don’t think so. Knowing that some people are crass and shallow and egotisical, that’s a feeling. I believe with my whole being that Christ saved me, and how do I know? The Word of God tells me. You might try reading it instead of what someone else (Pope) tells you it says.”

Wow. Coming from you that is incredibly...well, somewhere in between funny and hypocritical. I posted verses that you could not deal with. You were UNABLE to respond to them in any effective manner whatsoever. I read the Bible quite often, almost every single day and it is very rare that I ever miss a day. The word of God NOWHERE tells anyone that his or her feelings are a barometer of justification, sanctification or salvation. That is a purely Protestant viewpoint that has developed only since 1517 or so. A person can feel saved, and in itself there is nothing wrong with that, but it is a feeling and people can fool themselves.

“Now I have to put myself in another timeout...thank you very much.”

You’re doing it to yourself. I’m not even helping you get there at this point. Maybe you should ask yourself why this is so hard for you when you read the Bible often and are convinced of your salvation. Why would talking to me be so upsetting when you think you have it all worked out?


357 posted on 08/14/2008 4:58:19 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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