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To: Marysecretary

You wrote:

“Not all believers were the Catholic church.”

1) You meant to say, “Not all the believers were in the Catholic Church.”

2) That is objectively wrong since there was only one Church and believers at the beginning could only be part of ONE Church.

3) You are admitting that the Catholic Church was there in the beginning. Where was your sect?

“Good grief, there were many different churches in early Bible history, during and after Christ’s death and resurrection.”

No, there were not. There was ONE Church and then there were breakaway sects too.

“To say they are all Catholic is a falsehood from the Church.”

No, it is simply the truth and reality. Logically, there was only one Church established by Christ.

“Wow. I know you all believe that but, wow.”

Wow, I know you all deny reality, but, wow.


256 posted on 08/13/2008 2:41:57 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998

I don’t have a ‘sect,’ I am a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, his death on the cross, his resurrection and his soon return. There were a number of churches at that time that were mentioned in the Bible. Spin it all you want, vlad. God’s universal catholic church is His Body of believers all over the world. Born again Catholics are a part of that body as born again protestants are.


291 posted on 08/13/2008 5:23:49 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Quix

Here tis.


334 posted on 08/14/2008 2:55:37 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: vladimir998; Alex Murphy; blue-duncan; BnBlFlag; Dr. Eckleburg; ears_to_hear; Forest Keeper; ...
“Not all believers were the Catholic church.”

1) You meant to say, “Not all the believers were in the Catholic Church.”

NO! NOW WAY. Not all believers were Vatican sheeple--PARTICULARLY before the Vatican's existence about 300-400 AD. Through the centuries, God has always kept a remnant here and there who worshiped HIM IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH.

The Vatican power-mongering committee driven pile of heresies beginning 300-400 AD enjoyed military backing . . . but NOT God's anointing nor backing. The same is essentially true only worse today. Thankfully, Some Vatican reps in some Charismatic communities have returned to a Biblical focus . . . largely in spite of the Vatican vs because of it.

2) That is objectively wrong since there was only one Church and believers at the beginning could only be part of ONE Church.

UNMITIGATED HOGWASH!

There were clusters of believers in house churches all over the known world without a shred of authoritarian anything from any political power-mongering oversight commttee AT ALL. Even Paul and crew going down to Jerusalem to deal with the circumcision etc. nonsense did not end up in any kind of routine lines of ecclesiastical authority. INSTITUTIONAL lies to the contrary do NOT turn authentic history into rubber history for the thoughtful and well read.

3) You are admitting that the Catholic Church was there in the beginning. Where was your sect?

BALDERDASH. UNMITIGATED HOGWASH.

A) The Vaticons were NOT there in the beginning. Their political power-mongering military supported pile of stinking bureaucracy didn't arise until 300-400 years later.

B) This compulsion to glorify brazenly fantasized pedigrees is akin to the Jewish Magicsterical's obcessions 2000 years ago with blood descendancy. Christ spoke rather starkly about their priorities then and has not changed HIS TUNE on such in 2000 years.

Prott's spiritual heritage roots are the same place all believers in all Christian groups has always been--rooted and secure in maintaining the overwhelming focus on CHRIST, HIM CRUCIFIED, HIS BLOOD, HIS RESURRECTION LIFE, FOLLOWING HIS SPIRIT into all truth as HE INSTRUCTED.

He didn't think much of the corrupt middle-men in the Jewish Magicsterical 2000 years ago and has routinely removed the anointing from every group's bureaucratic magicsterical ever since. INSTITUTIONS ARE NOTORIOUSLY DEADLY toward authentic RELATIONSHIPS with God.

Father's not all that thrilled with bureaucrats trying to usurp Holy Spirit's roles, either.

“Good grief, there were many different churches in early Bible history, during and after Christ’s death and resurrection.”

No, there were not. There was ONE Church and then there were breakaway sects too.

MORE UNMITIGATED, UNHISTORICAL, INACCURATE BALDERDASH.

There were a plethera of house churches all over the known world from Paul's day to this. Some eras they were few and far between and some eras they were plentiful. God always had at least a remnant who worshiped HIM IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH--REGARDLESS. And usually, those closest to HIM walking most IN HIS SPIRIT were the FURTHEST AWAY from CHRISTIAN INSTITUTIONS--particularly !!!!TRADITION!!!! BOUND, BUREAUCRATIC POLITICAL POWER-MONGERING HERETICAL INSTITUTIONS such as that which worsened by the century by the Tiber.

“To say they are all Catholic is a falsehood from the Church.”

You sure got that right, Mary.

No, it is simply the truth and reality. Logically, there was only one Church established by Christ.

MORE UNMITIGATED HOGWASH.

ALL THE BELIEVERS in the myriad of house churches worshiping God in Spirit and in Truth were part of the Church Universal--and often--exclusively so as various "CHRISTIAN" institutions LEFT GOD IN THE DUST in favor of their gods of bureaucracy; power-mongering; !!!!TRADITION!!!!; vain-glory; self-righteousness; magicsterical power plays; . . .

Thankfully, God has always had a people, even when INSTITUTIONS which bore His Name have behaved the opposite of His priorities.

405 posted on 08/15/2008 8:33:51 PM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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