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To: vladimir998

Sorry, vlad, but one’s salvation has nothing to do with any church. It’s a personal decision between man and God. Your church has nothing to do with it. My husband prayed over a man in a coma in the hospital. He woke up, asked the Lord to come into his life, and went back into the coma. God had chosen him to be saved at that moment. He didn’t go to church but he went to heaven. Your church has indoctrinated all of you into believing, or so it seems, that you can’t go to heaven without being Catholic and going through all the rites of the church. It just ain’t so.

God established the Body of Christ, THE one true church.


110 posted on 08/12/2008 6:57:00 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Marysecretary

You wrote:

“Sorry, vlad, but one’s salvation has nothing to do with any church.”

Christ died in part to establish the Church. He gave to her the power to bind and loose sins and to wash them away threw baptism. If washing away sins isn’t some how about salvation, then nothing is. Christ did not send an empty symbol into the world. He sent the Church.

“It’s a personal decision between man and God. Your church has nothing to do with it.”

The Church has everything to do with it: baptism, teaching authority, binding and loosing, Church Triumphant. Everything.

“My husband prayed over a man in a coma in the hospital. He woke up, asked the Lord to come into his life, and went back into the coma. God had chosen him to be saved at that moment. He didn’t go to church but he went to heaven.”

I hope he did. You assume he’s there. I hope he is there. The Church still had something to do with his salvation. No Church, no Christians. No Church, no Bible. No Church, no witness. No Church, no teaching. No Church, no salvation.

“Your church has indoctrinated all of you into believing, or so it seems, that you can’t go to heaven without being Catholic and going through all the rites of the church. It just ain’t so.”

The Church has not indoctrinated me. I came to the faith fully in adulthood and did it through study and prayer. I studied more in a few years than most Christians do in a lifetime. Also, we do not believe - nor is it taught - that those who are not formally Catholic will be damned. You say we believe it, but we don’t it. Also, a person does not need to go through all the rites of the Church to be saved. That doesn’t change what the Bible says about baptism and salvation, however.

“God established the Body of Christ, THE one true church.”

And she is called the Catholic Church.


117 posted on 08/12/2008 7:41:04 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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