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To: Gamecock; Quix
Nothing but crickets from our Catholic FRiends.

Funny how that works out.

I would still like an RCC answer explaining how 1200 (nearly) continuous years of crusades, inquisitions, genocides, religious persecutions, torture, rape, pillage, sword, and blood do not represent an errant Church.

I really would like an answer.

179 posted on 07/31/2008 1:44:18 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; Forest Keeper
***I would still like an RCC answer explaining how 1200 (nearly) continuous years of crusades, inquisitions, genocides, religious persecutions, torture, rape, pillage, sword, and blood do not represent an errant Church.***

The answer, if one is provided, will go something like this: What you need to realize is that The Catholic Church is inerrant, in so far as it is inerrant. The Pope is infallible, but only in so far as he is infallible. You Proddies just don't understand because you are Proddies.

180 posted on 07/31/2008 2:05:50 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, Am I good enough to be a Christian? rather Am I good enough not to be?)
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To: roamer_1
I would still like an RCC answer explaining how 1200 (nearly) continuous years of crusades, inquisitions, genocides, religious persecutions, torture, rape, pillage, sword, and blood do not represent an errant Church.

Before responsing, it would be helpful to know your understanding of that period in history. Please post references and links. Thank you.

185 posted on 07/31/2008 5:43:41 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: roamer_1
I would still like an RCC answer explaining how 1200 (nearly) continuous years of crusades, inquisitions, genocides, religious persecutions, torture, rape, pillage, sword, and blood do not represent an errant Church.

An honest . . . TRUE-TO-HISTORY-TRUE-TO-REALITY ANSWER from the RC reps on that matter?

Hell would be more likely to hold an Olympic snowball fight, first.

THEY CANNOT--EVEN TO THEMSELVES--EVEN TO THE PERSON IN THEIR MIRRORS--DARE TO RISK EVEN THE KERNAL of such an honest, true-to-history-and-reality logical answer to that question.

If they do, the house of cards is in shambles.

Have you ever seen one of those string and stick sculptures--all tensioned just right etc? Their house of cards is like that only chaotic vs orderly.

The rubber stretches from point A to point W. And from point C to point X. And from point K to point YY. and from point G to point QQ . . . a Gordian Knot would be a slipknot by comparison.

The mutually exclusive terminal level deal breaker BRAZEN CONTRADICTIONS within the edifice and it's endless reams of dogma and fantasized doctrines & !!!!TRADITIONS!!!! of men and worse . . . are as obvious as warts on a toad . . . unless one is addicted there-to; obsessed there-with and worshiping there-at.

Some folks with sufficient fair-mindedness and openness to Holy Spirit to learn and see truth, yet . . . may well profit eternally from your great efforts. It increasingly looks like a number of rabid folks hereon may well not be included in that cluster.

189 posted on 07/31/2008 7:27:18 AM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: roamer_1; Gamecock; Quix
1200 (nearly) continuous years of crusades, inquisitions, genocides, religious persecutions, torture, rape, pillage, sword, and blood do not represent an errant Church.

You first: what do these unfortunate events, such as they were, have to do with the inerrancy of the Church? I did not get my answer either.

204 posted on 07/31/2008 10:46:53 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: roamer_1; Jaded; redgolum; annalex; sandyeggo; Gamecock; Quix
I will return to your original question:

I would still like an RCC answer explaining how 1200 (nearly) continuous years of crusades, inquisitions, genocides, religious persecutions, torture, rape, pillage, sword, and blood do not represent an errant Church.

It seems you have waged your own crusade through this thread. Throughout history, many uprisings, invasions and wars have been waged in the holy name of God. But here is one big difference.


JIM LEHRER: There was an extraordinary event in Rome yesterday as Pope John Paul II issued an apology for errors of his church over the last 2000 years. Our coverage begins with a report from Peter Morgan of Independent Television News.
A PAPAL APOLOGY

As you will soon discover in reading through that transcript, the apology was not enough for the Jews, not enough for the Orthodox, not enough for anyone ... no matter what the pope or the Catholic Church does, it never seems to be enough ... not even here in this forum.

It takes a great amount of humility to apologize. It takes a charitable person to accept the apology. It's time to move on.

298 posted on 08/01/2008 1:52:43 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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