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To: annalex; AnAmericanMother; big'ol_freeper; Mrs. Don-o; vladimir998; LurkingSince'98; ...
AnAmericanMother: Show me one Catholic on this forum who has consigned any poster to hell....Even hedging your bets, I don't think you'll find one. And even if you do find a poster who said that, they are wrong and in conflict with the teaching of the Church.
big'ol_freeper: It is just not part of Catholic outlook to state if someone is saved or not.
Mrs. Don-O: I challenge you to find one -- one--- Catholic FReeper who said that somebody's going to hell because they're not Catholic. I seriously doubt that you can. But if you do ---find me that ignoramus and I will whup some l'arnin' into him. And don't think I won't.
vladimir998: Really? List examples here at FR please.
LurkingSince'98: Who told you that? That is anecdotal - give us real! Please give us a direct quote with links to the exact quote?

annalex: You are hell bound, generally speaking, yes, by the fact of your being separated brethren.
annalex: I know, for example, that as an anti-Catholic you cannot go to heaven

Thanks for spelling it out down to those street-level specifics, annalex. For two days, your Catholic friends have been chiding us that no Catholic would ever say that sort of thing, and now a double-witness has been provided, for all to see, that some would. A lot of FRCatholics should be eating crow right about now, only I know it'll never happen. Catholics don't eat meat on Fridays.

By all means annalex, you go right on praying to Mary for my "conversion". I'll just keep praying to Jesus Christ for yours.

215 posted on 07/25/2008 10:48:36 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

Alex,

You wrote:

“By all means annalex, you go right on praying to Mary for my “conversion”. I’ll just keep praying to Jesus Christ for yours.”

The problem is Annalex - although imperfect like us all - is converted, while you show only a meanspiritedness in attacking the Church every day and even going way out of your way to do it.


220 posted on 07/25/2008 11:19:45 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Alex Murphy

Let’s see:

Here’s what we had to work with:

“Show me one Catholic on this forum who has consigned any poster to hell....Even hedging your bets, I don’t think you’ll find one. And even if you do find a poster who said that, they are wrong and in conflict with the teaching of the Church.”

Now here’s Alex’s proof - after much waiting which shows this certainly is less common than Protestants attacking Catholics here:

“annalex: You are hell bound, generally speaking, yes, by the fact of your being separated brethren.”

Well, that doesn’t work. Hell bound is not the same as consigning someone to hell. So, your example fails immediately, Alex. Next:

“annalex: I know, for example, that as an anti-Catholic you cannot go to heaven.”

Well, some might say that not going to heaven is not necessarily going to hell, but even if taken in the most immediate sense this too is not a consignment to hell. Annalex is probably correct in that someone filled with anti-Catholic spirit cannot be right with God after all.

And the context of these statements would have been nice too, Alex.

I think you got close, but I still don’t see any automatic consignment to hell there.


222 posted on 07/25/2008 11:27:37 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Alex Murphy
It's a feast day, and the Friday fast is optional. Wrong twice.

And the first statement had "generally speaking" in it, which is importantly different from "categorically speaking". And the second post was about anti-Catholics, which is a class not identical with "Protestant".

Looks like crow's back OFF the menu, boys.

233 posted on 07/25/2008 12:19:56 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (I don't believe in organized religion. I'm a Catholic.)
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To: Alex Murphy
Catholics don't eat meat on Fridays.

Quick, what year is this?

235 posted on 07/25/2008 12:21:25 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Alex Murphy; AnAmericanMother; big'ol_freeper; Mrs. Don-o; vladimir998; LurkingSince'98
your Catholic friends have been chiding us that no Catholic would ever say that sort of thing

And they were correct. My expectation of your conversion and consequent salvation is right in the post you quote from.

246 posted on 07/25/2008 1:16:42 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Alex Murphy

AAAAAMEN, ALEX.


512 posted on 07/27/2008 4:29:59 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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